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I am working on some vocals in RealBand and on occasion want to edit out some breathing between words. I want to silence some things. I can delete it but it nudges over the vocal track just a little. Audacity has silence. Does RealBand have silence? If it does I can't find it.

It would be great if there was some feature to edit out breathing naturally. I have something for that in the iZotope plugin Nectar 2 I know on the Voice Over settings. I have to start using those tools soon. I am just familiarizing with other things. Anyway it would be nice to select an area then this editing feature could fade out and in where you selected.
I know that iZotope said it takes out the breath naturally. I would think it could be something like that.

Ok please tell me about silencing parts of the vocal track. As I said deleting nudges over the track. Silencing wouldn't do that. So I hope you have it.

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Grab the bottom edge of the track, drag it downwards to expose the Volume Node area, and simply click a node and draw the Volume down and back up again under the offending part. OK to draw it down to zero and back to where it was afterwards.

But I find that completely eliminating them often does not sound as good as just turning them down.


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Thanks Mac I will check that out. I appreciate it. Yes good advice not to completely eliminate it. I cut some out and that just doesn't sound good with nothing there. Good thinking.

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Just make sure you check here http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=230967#Post230967 I got caught with that as they are not clip envelopes and if you want to adjust the vocal volume up or down in the mix you won't be able to once you have the nodes in as they automate the volume slider.

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Thanks Solidrock, I will go read that. It will probably have some good information for what I am doing. It takes a lot of time to learn to sing great and to record it and make yourself sound great it takes more skill

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I use two different methods for editing out things in my audio tracks.

One, as has been mentioned, is using the volume envelopes and zooming in close to surgically place the nodes exactly where I need them. I use this on the occasional noise since taking the time to add 4 nodes and be sure they are where they need to be is time consuming.

My second and preferred way is to use the functions in my DAW (Sonar X1) and use the function: process audio>mute. I move the track in question to the top of the track view, zoom in, highlight/select the correct track, and drag my mouse on the time line for the area I wish to mute. I ensure I have captured the area accurately and click OK. It processes and mutes the chosen section.... I play through it to check it and move to the next....

I use it on breath sounds, clicks, noise, or anything else that is an unwelcome visitor in the track.

Don't forget to click on SAVE.

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In RB you can open the track in the audio edit window (Double click in the track), and then use the + - buttons to blow up the wave file till you can see the offending noise, and highlight and delete. Very easy. Also as Mac said sometimes the breath sound make the vocal sound real, or natural. So lower the volume on that sound. Highlight that portion, right click and choose audio effects, then gain change, and chose constant gain, in the drop down click on cut-3 db or cut -6 db or customize to what you want, if not right undo and start over.


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.... sometimes the breath sound make the vocal sound real, or natural. So lower the volume on that sound. ...... click on cut-3 db or cut -6 db or customize to what you want, if not right undo and start over.


exactly.... removing all the breath sounds on some recordings can make the vocal track a bit to sterile sounding, so leaving them in a lower "non-distracting" level avoids that issue while keeping it real.

This is probably more of an issue on a solo vocal with only a piano or guitar as backup where the vocal part is very intimate and in your face. In that case you DO want to leave some of the breathiness in the vocal. With a full band behind the singer, the breathy aspect is generally covered up fairly well by the instruments. On those kinds of tracks I do remove all the breath sounds just to have that noise out of the mix.

This is an example: In A World Without You

The original vocal was very breathy. A number of listeners to the original track mentioned this and as a result I went back and removed MOST... but not all of it. I lowered quite a bit and left it there only removing the most distracting ones.

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Very interesting thread, beyond just the vocals.

BTW, "In A World Without You", really enjoyed it.
To my old ears, first class stuff.


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Very interesting thread, beyond just the vocals.

BTW, "In A World Without You", really enjoyed it.
To my old ears, first class stuff.


Thanks... it's an older song done before I had BB to do tracks for me. Perhaps I may revisit it with this new 2014 version..... it would be something to do.


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