Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,694
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,694
This may be similar to an issue that Ian had earlier. Not sure if it is the same, so... a separate post.

I loaded a style: _CAIRPGS.STY (CltAir wGuitar,Piano,Strings[85])

It loads a Super Midi track in the Piano slot. Later I chose an RT piano in that slot and there was no sound. SampleTank was still listed in the PLugins in position one - so I set that to None.

Then the sound nearly blew my ear drums. I have to turn that track down to 7 (as in, Seven). Can't go past 10 (that is not a Spinal Tap joke) because it is BLARING!

If I call up another Super midi track, the volume reacts correctly - can turn it up to 127. Replace it with another RT, and have to turn it down to 7, again...

Anyone?

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
M
Mac Offline
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
M
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
Posting a link to both files, before and after, somewhere on the web, so that we can download it and take a look is the best way to handle this one, I think.


--Mac

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,694
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,694
Not sure if I can recreate the "before" file. I could create a new SGU with the same style, but to test whether the same thing happens, it would become the "after" file.

Here is the SGU. Zipped. (the song is called "Choking").

http://floydjane.com/Songs/SGU.htm

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
M
Mac Offline
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
M
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
Downloaded file, opened in BB, sounds great, played with Vol fader from end to end, then set the existing Tracks to levels quickly and Rendered what I heard to mp3:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ptm4jl944tf42ex/Choking_mp3Render_Mac%27s_Machine.mp3

So I don't think it is in the songfile.

Might have been due to lost or corrupted machine resources at your end, a shutdown of all proggies and a reboot generally clears such things up here. If that doesn't do the trick, it may time for the Return to Factory Settings, don't be timid about that one, often it is the way to restore lost functions and cannot be avoided. But try the reboot first.



Good sounding work there!



--Mac

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,694
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,694
Mac -

Appreciate your efforts. I rebooted my machine. I did a full factory reset.

Did not change the result. The first gen of the song, once again, there was no sound from the Piano slot which contained an RT (piano). Went to the plugin tab, double clicked the first slot which showed SampleTank. When the plugin form comes up, it shows None in the first slot. Close that and now the sound returns - LOUD. As if it runs through its entire span from 0 - 10 (11 - 127 are unlistenable - loud, then, of course progressively distorted).

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,243
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,243
Originally Posted By: floyd jane
Mac -

Appreciate your efforts. I rebooted my machine. I did a full factory reset.

Did not change the result. The first gen of the song, once again, there was no sound from the Piano slot which contained an RT (piano). Went to the plugin tab, double clicked the first slot which showed SampleTank. When the plugin form comes up, it shows None in the first slot. Close that and now the sound returns - LOUD. As if it runs through its entire span from 0 - 10 (11 - 127 are unlistenable - loud, then, of course progressively distorted).


Hi Floyd
check this out - http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=235797&page=1
I had a problem with this Style too. Support are aware, it IS a bug and Rob is will be working on it (sometime?). But it would do no harm to nag them and send them an e-mail too.
cheers
ian


Old Guys Rule.The older I get,the better I was!
BB2023 ULTRA, 1013, Win 7 and 10

ALL TRACKS - https://app.box.com/s/501rnzrbadng1elvi45hbf7y08kl5oxp
SOUNDCLOUD-tracks using BB-
http://soundcloud.com/sixchannel
Videos-
https://youtube.com/user/Sixchannel1
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
M
Mac Offline
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
M
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
Originally Posted By: floyd jane

It loads a Super Midi track in the Piano slot. Later I chose an RT piano in that slot and there was no sound. SampleTank was still listed in the PLugins in position one - so I set that to None.


When I had the file open here, there was a Piano listed on the Piano Track, but it was not playing. The file opened with the Fader for the Piano track turned all the way off.

The Piano heard in my Render is the RT Piano, which was found on the Melody track.

Am going to take another look sometime today.

Seems this may be the same bug that was already reported, perhaps.


--Mac

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,694
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,694
Originally Posted By: Mac
When I had the file open here, there was a Piano listed on the Piano Track, but it was not playing. The file opened with the Fader for the Piano track turned all the way off.


Yeah, that is where it has to be on my machine (7) - or it will blow everything off the shelves. I did not want to take the chance that it might blow your speakers.

I would think the best "test" would be to create a new song and load that style - it loads a SuperMidi piano in the Piano slot. After generating once, swap that out for an RT piano and see what happens..

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
M
Mac Offline
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
M
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
Was able to get the exact same BLARING PIANO track from that file this morning.

At first, the Piano could not be heard at all here, just like yesterday, no matter the Fader setting.

RightClick on the mixer ID slot and saw that SampleTank was invoked - but the track is in Green, indicating that it should be a RealTrack. So I picked the first entry in Sampletank window, highlighted that to say Okay to no send to Sampletank and BOOM, there's the blaring piano alright.

Wanted to see what would happen if I RightClicked on the Vol number slot and changed it to "1" - and all sound stopped entirely then, on all tracks, although the Transport kept moving.

Shut down BB, then reopened songfile, got the sound back again.

Removed Sampletank again, but this time immediately did a SaveAs under a slightly diffefent filename.

hit Open and reloaded the songfile with that new name.

Removing SampleTank lets that realtrack Piano play when song is opened, but it is still blaring piano.

Interestingly, before doing that SaveAs after turning off SampleTank selection, I always would get the Regeneration wait state for RealTracks when just hitting the Play button - which should not happen.

After the SaveAs, hitting Play does not force a regeneration every time (as if I had changed something in the file - but I hadn't changed anything).

Houston, we have a problem.

On the other hand, the file sounds great with that Piano muted and the other one playing, don't think I'd want two Pianists on this gig anyway...


--Mac

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 204
L
Apprentice
Offline
Apprentice
L
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 204
Ian, I have worked with Rob on a couple of things in the past. In the latter part of last week, I ask for Rob specifically. I was told that he is no longer with P.G. Support? That may, or may not effect the outcome of the speaker busting volume BUG as mentioned earlier.-----Leon

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,694
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,694
Originally Posted By: Mac
On the other hand, the file sounds great with that Piano muted and the other one playing, don't think I'd want two Pianists on this gig anyway...


LOL. That was a left-over "audition" - he did not make the cut. (he played so LOUD! - no egos allowed in our studio... smile )

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 9,326
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 9,326
I loaded it in my system.

Sounded good but the piano was set to 6 and when I dragged it up it did get really loud.

so yeah.... ditto here.


You can find my music at:
www.herbhartley.com
Add nothing that adds nothing to the music.
You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both.

The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
User Video: Next-Level AI Music Editing with ACE Studio and Band-in-a-Box®

The Bob Doyle Media YouTube channel is known for demonstrating how you can creatively incorporate AI into your projects - from your song projects to avatar building to face swapping, and more!

His latest video, Next-Level AI Music Editing with ACE Studio and Band-in-a-Box, he explains in detail how you can use the Melodist feature in Band-in-a-Box with ACE Studio. Follow along as he goes from "nothing" to "something" with his Band-in-a-Box MIDI Melodist track, using ACE Studio to turn it into a vocal track (or tracks, you'll see) by adding lyrics for those notes that will trigger some amazing AI vocals!

Watch: Next-Level AI Music Editing with ACE Studio and Band-in-a-Box


Band-in-a-Box® 2024 German for Windows is Here!

Band-in-a-Box® 2024 für Windows Deutsch ist verfügbar!

Wir waren fleißig und haben über 50 neue Funktionen und eine erstaunliche Sammlung neuer Inhalte hinzugefügt, darunter 222 RealTracks, neue RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, "Songs with Vocals" Artist Performance Sets, abspielbare RealTracks Set 3, abspielbare RealDrums Set 2, zwei neue Sets von "RealDrums Stems", XPro Styles PAK 6, Xtra Styles PAK 17 und mehr!

Paket | Was ist Neu

Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!

Add updated printing options, enhanced tracks settings, smoother use of MGU and SGU (BB files) within PowerTracks, and more with the latest PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 update!

Learn more about this free update for PowerTracks Pro Audio & download it at www.pgmusic.com/support_windows_pt.htm#2024_5

The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!

The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!

Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.

This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245

The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option

Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!

Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!

For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.

Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.

Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!

Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.

Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.

Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!

Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!

With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!

Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111

Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!

If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.

A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."

"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."

"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."

Forum Statistics
Forums66
Topics81,660
Posts735,516
Members38,528
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
Newest Members
gman97040, kadju, theyearofjess, OlvaJownDay, Tranner Track
38,527 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 173
DC Ron 103
dcuny 88
WaoBand 74
rsdean 72
Today's Birthdays
David Robinson, louiep, Ozkar, Timothy W. Cook
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5