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#36535 09/15/09 11:26 PM
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I+ve seen (and forgot) a certain word in english for the two-note chord in i.e.:
G7 = only play F B (no D) and let the bass have the root.
If it is G majar 7= F# B ( no D) only bass plays the root.
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Were you thinking of "Dyad" or the more prosaic "Interval"?


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Shell voicings emphasize the characteristic notes of a chord.


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"GUIDE TONE VOICINGS", these are called.
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The F and B over a G bass is called the Tritone.

The 3 and the dom7 of the chord.

Since the Tritone is exactly halfway between octaves, each Tritone can function as the Shell of two different dom7 chords a flat five apart.

That F and B over G can also be played over Db and becomes the Db Tritone. Notice how the 7 and 3 invert when you do that.


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Hi Martin B and all you good people
Thanks for all your help and explanations.
The word that I´ve been missing was Shell Chords.
After your help, I could search the internet and found this site:
http://www.jazzguitar.be/jazz_guitar_chords_basic_shell.html
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Just a comment to say classically trained Europeans have a different way of thinking about these chords. I have a good friend who's a graduate of the Warsaw Conservatory in piano. I had to teach her "our" names for these chords. She didn't know anything about Maj7's, 7b9's, tritones or any of that. People were giving her fake book charts and she didn't know what to do with them. One time I played a recording of a Chick Corea passage for her because I wanted her to show me what he was doing. To my ears this was a very complex thing and I figured it might take her a bit to figure it out. It took her all of 10 seconds and I was just floored. She has unbelievable ears and told me it was just part of her training. I asked her what she called these changes and she shrugged and said they were just simple functions like any idiot knows that. She's actually not arrogant at all it's just that her level of training is such that she can make almost any music pro feel like an idiot sometimes. She's now a private teacher to mostly very good pianists in the studio industry. She can sit down with anybody regardless of their level of proficiency and show them how to improve their technique.

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I've heard these referred to as "power chords". I can't think why.

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Power chords play the root and the fifth, whereas 'shell chords' play the third and the seventh. Wikipedia provides some sound explanations why root and fifth may create some 'powerful' impressions ...


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No matter if you call them, Shells, Tritones, or another term, they are definitely not Power Chords.

Use of the Root and Fifth create what pipe organists term the "resultant" -- a ghost of the root note an octave lower at half amplitude. Hence the "power" term.


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I've done those shell voicings quite a bit on the bass guitar, where the number of notes available for chords is limited (four strings, usually, and the bottom two strings aren't really useful unless you're playing above the 12th fret). What's interesting (and convenient) is that if you play a shell tritone on the I chord (third & minor 7th), you only have to take the two notes down a half-step and you've got the shell voicing for the IV chord (minor 7th and third).

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