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#109094 03/22/11 09:12 AM
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hello biab forums,

i have biab 2008, well i just bought a yamaha dgx640 keyboard, i wanted to play on it and edit
the music in biab.

my problem is that i am connecting the keyboard thru the usb. now i have updated the driver
from yamaha called the usb-midi and it is listed in the device manager.
But i have no midi sound/input from the midi sound input driver list, i get an error that windows is not recognizing a driver, i use xp, and the sound card i have is SB X-Fi Titanium.

thanks,
craig

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MIDI is not sound. It is just data, digital 0's and 1's (or on/off)

Select the USB device in the midi device panel for the input side.
Select the X-FI for the output side.
*Note - USB device should be hooked up and recognized by Windows before starting BiaB or RB.

Make sure the MIDI out of keyboard is connected to the MIDI IN of computer.
Now when you play the keyboard you should see the notes get highlited on the keyboard at top of screen in BiaB or RB, and hear the sound come from the X-FI card.


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MIDI is not sound. It is just data, digital 0's and 1's (or on/off)

Select the USB device in the midi device panel for the input side.
Select the X-FI for the output side.
*Note - USB device should be hooked up and recognized by Windows before starting BiaB or RB.

Make sure the MIDI out of keyboard is connected to the MIDI IN of computer.
Now when you play the keyboard you should see the notes get highlited on the keyboard at top of screen in BiaB or RB, and hear the sound come from the X-FI card.





the usb device is not available on the input side; that is the problem--i can see the device in window's device manager under Sounds, Video and Game Controllers---listed as Yamaha USB-MidI Driver.

on the yamaha itself it is outputted thru a terminal host in the back of the unit.

so if it is recognized by windows why won't BIAB list it so i can use it as an input driver.


thanks,

craig

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Good question. If Windows sees the device but BIAB does not, even if you waited to start BIAB like rharv said. then I suggest you call PG Music Support.

A work-around would be to use MIDI out from the keyboard, if you have that.


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Hi zpupster,


When using a USB device, it is important to have that device plugged in and recognied by the OS *BEFORE* starting a host program such as Band in a Box.

This is because BiaB performs a routine that looks for all available devices when BiaB is first started up. If the program has already started when you connect the USB device, the System may be able to see it and declare it available, but BiaB can't. If you forget to plug in the MIDI device before starting BB, don't just minimize BB to the taskbar, close it down completely, then connect the USB, then open BB. You should then be able to see the USB device in the list as well as choose it.


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Good question. If Windows sees the device but BIAB does not, even if you waited to start BIAB like rharv said. then I suggest you call PG Music Support.

A work-around would be to use MIDI out from the keyboard, if you have that.




Not an option; it only has USB, no MIDI connections!


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Good question. If Windows sees the device but BIAB does not, even if you waited to start BIAB like rharv said. then I suggest you call PG Music Support.

A work-around would be to use MIDI out from the keyboard, if you have that.




Not an option; it only has USB, no MIDI connections!



Thanks for checking, Bob. I'm surprised a keyboard would not support MIDI.


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Are you sure you have installed the USB drivers correctly, see page 104 of your manual. If in question then uninstall the drivers and start again. It is very important that you do not have anything running in the background when installing drivers. Things like anti-virus, anti-spyware etc can corrupt driver installs.

I hope this helps - MarioD

PS - I have had driver installs "burp" doing installation and I have to reinstall them to get them to work. Maybe that is the case here - don't know.

PPS - another after thought. What version of XP are you using? I have one USB driver that is not compatible with SP3, even though it says it is!

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My Yamaha Tyros connects via USB cable and the midi IS routed through that. I suspect he did not have the cable connected prior to starting Biab.

If I open Biab and the USB cable is not connected, Biab will assign the generic Windows GM Synth. His should show both input and output in Biab if he has the driver installed AND the cable connected with his keyboard powered up prior to opening Biab.

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