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pghboemike #235463 01/16/14 11:08 AM
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Now if they'll only extend support of XP until then, it might be a good business move.
Microsoft: Windows XP anti-malware support to last into 2015
Although the software giant will stop providing updates to the venerable OS this April, it will keep offering anti-malware updates until July 2015.


Regarding the DAW I stayed on XP until last year because I thought it was a fine OS.
Updating my OS was inevitable because I went from the quite dated Sonar 5.0 (I hear the chuckling) to Sonar X2.

Never went to Vista but last year (noting the above) I decided to get it done and get both computers on Win7.
I like Win7 and have no desire to be relegated to all the tactile necessity of a Win8 (or 9.0?) OS.
I'll stick with Win7 and hopefully it will out live me for my purposes.

Carry on....

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Originally Posted By: chulaivet1966

Regarding the DAW I stayed on XP until last year because I thought it was a fine OS.
Updating my OS was inevitable because I went from the quite dated Sonar 5.0 (I hear the chuckling) to Sonar X2.
Carry on....


I’m not chuckling as I also went from Sonar 5 to Sonar X1. I kept running out of ram with XP and Sonar 5 was not compatible with Win 7 64 bit.

I do not upgrade unless I absolutely have to upgrade! My only exception to this rule is BiaB.


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I’m not chuckling as I also went from Sonar 5 to Sonar X1. I kept running out of ram with XP and Sonar 5 was not compatible with Win 7 64 bit. I do not upgrade unless I absolutely have to upgrade! My only exception to this rule is BiaB.


Ditto on all of the above.
That jump to X2 was a stretch for my neurons and I'm still not proficient on the depths of it.

Although, I'm still on a 32bit platform which is of no negative consequence for me.
I'm still using the Delta44 which I purchased when it went on the market.
Prior to that it was the Gina20...another antiquated one....which I still have. smile

Win7 is it for me....hopefully.
I hate migrating to new OS's.

Carry on....

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Intel will stop making separate motherboards, and Microsoft has indeed sacrificed power users for portables. I hope both decisions are reversed. Windows 9 could signal an important change back.


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I’m not chuckling as I also went from Sonar 5 to Sonar X1. I kept running out of ram with XP and Sonar 5 was not compatible with Win 7 64 bit. I do not upgrade unless I absolutely have to upgrade! My only exception to this rule is BiaB.


Ditto on all of the above.
That jump to X2 was a stretch for my neurons and I'm still not proficient on the depths of it.

Although, I'm still on a 32bit platform which is of no negative consequence for me.
I'm still using the Delta44 which I purchased when it went on the market.
Prior to that it was the Gina20...another antiquated one....which I still have. smile

Win7 is it for me....hopefully.
I hate migrating to new OS's.

Carry on....


You might want to consider upgrading Sonar to X3d. X3d is X2 with a lot of the bugs gone and has some major improvements IMO plus it is a lot more stable, i.e. no crashes. Also X2 was under Roland and X3 is under Gibson/Tascam and they are actively involved in Sonar X3. Gibson/Tascam bought Cakewalk from Roland.

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+1 for SONAR users to update to X3D for stability.


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For my purposes, Win 8.1 is doing just fine. No problems whatsoever with BIAB. All my files play as they should. I'm getting along very well with Win 8.1. Later, Ray


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MarioD & Matt Finley....

I've read the same regarding your comments.
Just like here, I check the Cakewalk forums also as both go good with my coffee.
The upgrade for me is 150$ which is just not justified at this time.
Although, I would never say never. smile

Carry on....

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That's good news Mike.

I have an XP that I use for casual (non-business) Internet browsing. It's not my main computer, but I still use it a lot.

I was planning to trade it in this April, but now I'm considering waiting until Win9 comes out. I get along with 8 but am not crazy about it - but for the kind of tasks I do daily, I still like it better than Mac/OSX.

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Originally Posted By: Notes Norton

I have an XP that I use for casual (non-business) Internet browsing. It's not my main computer, but I still use it a lot.


Read the posted article in entirety to find out why that may not be such a good idea. No Critical Updates available = future online vulnerabilities.

On the other hand, you can hit the microsoft site and uswe their little routine that can tell you if that XP computer is capable of running Win7, and how well...


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Perhaps I'll put Linux on it. Since it does nothing but surf (and I don't use it for shopping either) it might be interesting to experience a bit of Linux.

Any suggestions of a Linux flavor for an older computer (Designed for XP, Windows Vista Compatible).

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Hey Notes, as you obviously know there's lots of flavours, but, FWIW, I've had some good sucess with ubuntu - but only as a server, haven't tried their workstation version...


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Originally Posted By: pghboemike
Originally Posted By: Notes Norton
Now if they'll only extend support of XP until then, it might be a good business move.


Microsoft: Windows XP anti-malware support to last into 2015
Although the software giant will stop providing updates to the venerable OS this April, it will keep offering anti-malware updates until July 2015.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-576172...last-into-2015/


I love my XP. Ultra stable. Problem is that "modern" software wont work with it.
SO - if I ever upgrade to windows whatever number all my lovely easy to use, bought and paid for software will have to be replaced. I can hear the Tills going "Kerrching" already.





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[quote=Notes Norton]Read the posted article in entirety to find out why that may not be such a good idea. No Critical Updates available = future online vulnerabilities.
On the other hand, you can hit the microsoft site and uswe their little routine that can tell you if that XP computer is capable of running Win7, and how well...


Yep...XP, as much as I like the OS, is too long in the tooth now.
I'm pleased with Win7 and I think is was time to get more current.

Carry on...

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It's not simply the basic security updates, it's virtually everything to do with online work. It only runs older browsers that don't have the latest and greatest either and there's other things I can't remember now. For going online, XP is a dinosaur and the hackers cut their teeth on it.

Things move very fast in the computer world and already Win 7 has certain vulnerabilities that Win 8 solves which is why I'm going to Win 8.1 soon. There's only so much that can be done with an old OS which is why new ones are continually written.

http://www.itworld.com/consumerization-i...rding-microsoft

To think that XP is somehow secure just because MS is still doing some stupid little patches for it is a joke.

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" It only runs older browsers that don't have the latest and greatest "
QFT

XP can only run IE 8 (I believe) and therefore limits what the OS patches and antivirus companies can do for you.
FF can be a little more forgiving, but it is time to move on. XP has reached its expiration date.


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No doubt that XP is getting ancient, which is why the XP machine is just for casual Internet browsing. There's nothing important on it, and it's not networked to my other computers, so if it does get compromised, there is nothing personal to lose (although I don't want it to be a spam bot either).

It just seems a waste to ditch a perfectly good running computer.

So I'll try a version of Linux.

Or I'll make it a backup to a stage computer. All my stage computers have to do is display music charts and/or words and play the mp3 backing tracks that I make at home. Stage computers don't go on the Internet, so I won't have to worry. I don't need a spare now, but I'm sure sooner or later my 2003 ThinkPad will meet it's maker.

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Notes, the Linux idea works well IMO.

Converted a handful of donated XP - and even one Win98 - boxes to Ubuntu Linux for use at a church Sunday School and Summer School so that the kids could access online teaching aids - and, of course, they also find the GAMES.

Works fine. Lean, Mean, does not need faster processors and large amounts of ram to get that paricular task done.

Added advantage, lots less in the way of virus/bloatware etc. problems for the Sysop.


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Thanks Mac.

Plus it will give me an opportunity to learn something news, and that's always a treat.

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Ubuntu and Firefox, "learning curve" is rather minimal.

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