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'' I have always found the at type of sequencer really productive ''

this freaking keyboard plays up.

I meant ' that type of sequencer'

the 'at' type of sequencer must be some innovative one that we have not yet heard of....

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Maybe it ran on the old IBM AT.

And handled a whopping 16 tracks of very cheezy MIDI via DOS commands...


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Alan, I agree about using a very good synth with BB, infact I hope to understand how I can setup my Kontakt 3 with the program. I could use some really nice sax patches for the 'thru' channel.




It's a good thought but that will frustrate you too. The problem is all of those big sampler programs like Kontakt, Sampletank etc, are not GM compatible. That means that on one hand yes you can set them up to work with Biab but you have to go in and assign each midi instrument every time you want to do a different song or make changes to an existing one. That gets old real fast. A basic GM synth like the VSC, Forte or a hardware module like the Ketron are true plug and play. Whatever instruments Biab wants to use are called up instantly, no problem. This is where the old Catch 22 comes in, live with the GM sounds or spend an inordinate amount of time setting up a nice sampler for each tune manually.
The other thing is Biab only has one midi output port so you can only use one synth at a time. You can't for example use the Forte for the backing band but use Kontakt for the sax soloist. That is one of the big reasons Real Band was developed. 32 midi output ports plus it does almost everything Biab does.

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hi Jazzmammal, yes I see what you mean about Kontakt and no GM compatibility. I remember I started investigating this a few years ago with Kontakt 2 and then gave up.....as you said, it was frustrating and I gave up. This tech stuff can really suck all your music time if not careful, as you well know

I also have a killer sounding sample library from Eastwest called Goliath, it apparently has a GM bank but it's still not GM compatible , so what's the use.....unless it's GM compatible, using that with BB would be very impractical and time consuming.

The single midi port in BB is really not enough, but thanks for the suggestion about Realband, I did not know about this difference about the midi ports and I think I could put RB to good use.

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Check out RB for sure, it's my main go to program now. When I said it does almost what Biab does, that's true. As far as loading a song or creating a new Biab song, it works exactly the same. What's missing are the midi soloists (the Real Tracks soloists work fine), the soundtrack and the ability to put in 1st/2nd endings, tags, coda's etc to create a fake book type chart. Still, for pure music creating it's identical to Biab with 48 tracks, all the midi output ports, much better midi/audio editing and mastering.

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I'll definitely start using Realband. I did check out the very first versions a while ago but I did run into a problem and didn't take my time with it. The one that comes with BB 2010 seems much improved overall. The idea to have a BB with a nice 16 track sequencer is really what I am looking for. Thanks

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