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Hola. Tengo una melodía en compás de 6/8 que quiero poner en el estilo YAMMER.STY que también está en compás de 6/8 pero el BB sólo acepta 4/4 y lo convierte en 6/8. El problema es que no consigo que vayan a la misma velocidad y no sé que hago mal. No sé a qué BPM tengo que poner uno y otro para que vayan sincronizados. Tengo BB2023 para Mac ¿Me podríais ayudar? Saludos y muchas gracias.

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Hola. Tengo una melodía en compás de 6/8 que quiero poner en el estilo YAMMER.STY que también está en compás de 6/8 pero el BB sólo acepta 4/4 y lo convierte en 6/8. El problema es que no consigo que vayan a la misma velocidad y no sé que hago mal. No sé a qué BPM tengo que poner uno y otro para que vayan sincronizados. Tengo BB2023 para Mac ¿Me podríais ayudar? Saludos y muchas gracias.
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Hello. I have a melody in 6/8 time that I want to put in the YAMMER.STY style that is also in 6/8 time but the BB only accepts 4/4 and converts it to 6/8. The problem is that I can't get them to go at the same speed and I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I don't know what BPM I have to set one and the other to make them synchronized. I have BB2023 for Mac. Could you help me? Greetings and thank you very much.


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I don't know what BPM I have to set one and the other to make them synchronized

What are you trying to synchronize? Do you mean that you are trying to enter a melody track in the notation window? You can think of the YAMMER style either as 6/8, or 4/4 in a triplet feel. The notation window lets you view it either way - to the right of the "Clean" checkbox in the notation window toolbar there is a drop-down menu where you can select 4/4 or 6/8. Note that with 6/8, each cell in the chord sheet represents two bars. Each beat is a group of three 8th notes; this is either an 8th note triplet in 4/4, or three regular 8th notes (one dotted quarter) in 6/8. If you toggle into editable notation mode, you'll see groups of dotted lines - each group represents one beat. In 6/8 time the divisions are actually 16th notes so there are six of them per beat.


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And (thanks to Google Translate) back to Spanish which hopefully assists the O/P:

¿Qué estás intentando sincronizar? ¿Quiere decir que está intentando introducir una pista de melodía en la ventana de notación? Puedes pensar en el estilo YAMMER como 6/8 o 4/4 en una sensación de triplete. La ventana de notación le permite verlo de cualquier manera: a la derecha de la casilla de verificación "Limpiar" en la barra de herramientas de la ventana de notación hay un menú desplegable donde puede seleccionar 4/4 o 6/8. Tenga en cuenta que con 6/8, cada celda de la hoja de acordes representa dos compases. Cada tiempo es un grupo de tres corcheas; se trata de un tresillo de corcheas en 4/4 o de tres corcheas normales (una negra con puntillo) en 6/8. Si cambia al modo de notación editable, verá grupos de líneas de puntos: cada grupo representa un tiempo. En 6/8 las divisiones son en realidad semicorcheas, por lo que hay seis por tiempo.


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No. Yo quiero poner un audio con la melodía y no sé a qué BMP grabarlo para que se sincronice con el estilo YAMMER. He hecho muchas pruebas y no acierto. Mi duda es: si en el YAMMER pongo 100 BPM ¿qué BPM tengo que poner en la partitura de donde voy a sacar el audio para que vayan sincronizados? ¿Pongo negra a 100 o negra con puntillo a 100?
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No. I want to play an audio with the melody and I don't know what BMP to record it to so that it synchronizes with the YAMMER style. I have done many tests and I am not successful. My question is: if I put 100 BPM in YAMMER, what BPM do I have to put in the score where I am going to get the audio from so that they are synchronized? Do I put quarter note at 100 or dotted quarter note at 100?
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Il peut être très difficile et parfois impossible de synchroniser les tempos de deux sources différentes dans BiaB. Avez-vous enregistré votre audio ? Si c'est le cas, réenregistrez-le simplement dans BiaB avec votre style Yammer, vous n'aurez donc rien à synchroniser.

Notez que dans ma DAW, je n'ai eu aucun succès à synchroniser quoi que ce soit avec un style BiaB 6/8 qui n'était pas généré dans 6/8 BiaB. A noter que cela inclut d'autres pistes MIDI et audio 6/8. YMMV

It can be very difficult to synchronize tempos from two different sources in BiaB and sometimes impossible. Did you record your audio? If so just re-record it in BiaB with your Yammer style, thus you don't have to synchronize anything.

Note that In my DAW I have had zero success synchronizing anything to a 6/8 BiaB style that wasn't generated in 6/8 BiaB. Note that includes other 6/8 MIDI and audio tracks. YMMV


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So you are recording your audio in a DAW outside of Band-in-a-Box, and then importing it later? Ideally you should set the DAW to 100 BPM, and set the beat to be a dotted quarter. This is a setting in some programs like Pro Tools. In Reaper, look for a "BPM basis" setting. I've found that by default some DAWs treat a quarter note as the beat in 12/8 and 6/8 time, which doesn't make sense musically and means that the tempo would need to be 1.5x faster. But as I said there should be a setting...

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Entonces, ¿estás grabando tu audio en una DAW fuera de Band-in-a-Box y luego lo estás importando? Lo ideal sería configurar el DAW a 100 BPM y configurar el ritmo para que sea un cuarto punteado. Esta es una configuración en algunos programas como Pro Tools. En Reaper, busque una configuración "base BPM". Descubrí que, de forma predeterminada, algunos DAW tratan una negra como el ritmo en 12/8 y 6/8, lo que no tiene sentido musicalmente y significa que el tempo tendría que ser 1,5 veces más rápido. Pero como dije, debería haber una configuración...


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