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Hi All With this talk about Chat GPT, I thought I would post an example of what OpenAi is currently doing with music... quite scary actually that this was generated in a few seconds with just a couple of prompts. Here is a sample of a song in the style of Alan Jackson. Okay, so the lyrics are not completely distinct and understandable but still, they have absolutely nailed the style and the tone.... https://soundcloud.com/openai_audio/jukebox-86115728The product is called JukeBox and it is not yet released for general consumption... I guess we have that to look forward to. What do you think?
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I think there will be a spot for it. Non-musicians will be able to compose songs, just like they can with Acid and loops. Musicians may be able to learn from it from both a lyric and instrumental side of things.
Will it be main stream? I hope not. It may be a fad for awhile but I think organic musicians will prevail.
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It may be a fad for awhile but I think organic musicians will prevail. ...until Skynet becomes self-aware. (ref. The Terminator)
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My experience has been that current AI-generated music/vocal software is neither fast nor easy.
It takes nine hours to render one minute of audio with JukeBox. OpenAI is working to address the issue. Also, the lyrics to the Alan Jackson song in question were not generated by JukeBox.
There are millions of dollars being used to advance these technologies. The advancement has been pretty rapid. How long until the technology is stable and valuable is not predictable.
The displacement of live musicians due to technology, cultural changes, and economics is ongoing, and AI is just another component of the reduction.
We tend to applaud personally useful technology and publicly denounce technology seen as causing a perceived or actual loss.
The only factor in the advancement of an AI that can generate "Alan Jackson-style" music effectively is the amount of profit that can be generated. Millions of dollars are not being poured into AI for our amusement and amazement.
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It may be a fad for awhile but I think organic musicians will prevail. ...until Skynet becomes self-aware. (ref. The Terminator) Good one!
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...until Skynet becomes self-aware. (ref. The Terminator) Sarah Connor can come to my house and punish me any time...
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Two thoughts: First it sounds like the AI used Spleeter to obtain vocal samples. More surprising the SoundCloud link is more than 2 years old.
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More surprising the SoundCloud link is more than 2 years old. I noticed that part way through listening and then wondered what proportion of what we hear is pure AI and what proportion might be a construction from OpenAI guys as a demonstration of principle; how much finessing. That demo seemed pretty good, some of the others are really horrible.
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@Jim, I did notice that the uploads were two years old… I wonder what had happened since then?
@billy. Where did you learn that it takes Jukebox 9 hours to generate 1 minute of audio? If so, then that is undoubtedly why they haven’t released it. Also interesting that you say the lyrics weren’t generated by Jukebox. Where are they from? I mean, OpenAI has the capability to generate pretty usable lyrics with their chat GPT…as an aside with gpt4 it promises to get even better.
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Hi Joanne,
First, the song is over two years old. I am not sure GPT3 was even in use then.
This is a quoit from TechRepublic "To assist, the lyrics in the released songs “have been co-written by a language model and OpenAI researchers.” The lyrics for the most part pass muster aside from maybe a line or two in the Sinatra nod.
Quoit from Nerdist. They are referring to the Alan Jackson song.
"The songs created by Jukebox are stunningly realistic. The track immediately above, for example, was generated by Jukebox after only receiving lyrics co-written by a language modeling tool and OpenAI researchers. Meaning that Jukebox was able to take the provided lyrics and generate an appropriate singing voice, instrumentals, and genre. Jukebox literally created all of that song, except for the lyrics, entirely from scratch."
From VentureBeat. This site has many of the technical details of how JukeBox works.
"But Jukebox has its limitations. While the songs it generates are fairly musically coherent and feature traditional chord patterns (and even solos), they lack structures like repeating choruses. Moreover, they contain discernible noise, and the models are painfully slow to sample from — it takes 9 hours to render one minute of audio.
Fortunately, OpenAI plans to distill Jukebox’s models into a parallel sampler that should “significantly” speed up sampling. It also intends to train Jukebox on songs from other languages and parts of the world beyond English and the West."
As mentioned, Jukebox, the second development after MuseNet, has been around for some time.
I think there may be a way to try this software, but I am unsure. My interest has been more technical than musical.
I am also interested in this developing technology's legal/governmental implications.
To date, there has been a lot of talk about regulating the social media companies such as Facebook, but not much action has occurred. That is most likely what will happen with AI issues.
I predict many lawsuits will be filed over intellectual property rights pertaining to AI.
Billy
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Who are they going to sue? The computer that wrote the lyrics? Dell for making the computer? Intel for making the processor IN the computer?
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Who are they going to sue? The computer that wrote the lyrics? Dell for making the computer? Intel for making the processor IN the computer? The answer is simple Eddie. Companies with money. Quoits from TechCrunch "As generative AI enters the mainstream, each new day brings a new lawsuit. Microsoft, GitHub and OpenAI are currently being sued in a class action motion that accuses them of violating copyright law by allowing Copilot, a code-generating AI system trained on billions of lines of public code, to regurgitate licensed code snippets without providing credit. Two companies behind popular AI art tools, Midjourney and Stability AI, are in the crosshairs of a legal case that alleges they infringed on the rights of millions of artists by training their tools on web-scraped images. And just last week, stock image supplier Getty Images took Stability AI to court for reportedly using millions of images from its site without permission to train Stable Diffusion, an art-generating AI." As it stands now, there are no laws in place and not much case law to address these issues. These issues span many industries. Hospitals are using AI in radiology and it is possible that AI will take over the role of many radiologists. Who gets sued? It depends on many factors. I can assure you that lawsuits will be filed when AI makes a mistake. In some ways, the current situation reminds me of the "Napster cases. The music industry responded by suing the owners of services like Napster, as well as ordinary users like a 66-year-old grandmother." Remember that case? LOL...don't worry, Eddie; I don't think you are in any danger for having posted an AI-generated image on the forum. As to Alan Jackson, I have no idea if he was consulted before using his name. It would be logical to assume he was. In truth, there are people who are taking several positions of who to sue. Who is responsible for the copyright violation? Is it the company who wrote the code" Is it the AI itself? Is it the company that lets you use the AI? Is it the user of the AI? If all this AI business were being generated by a handful of computer geeks, it would be one thing. The wealthiest companies in the world are behind all this AI business and they are investing BILLIONS. Billions, Big Money! Billy
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