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---"I couldn't risk multiple trips because I didn't have anybody to watch what was left while I was gone with the first load."---
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Gee, it looks like we've played some of the same places, Pat...LOL yeahhh... it's a commonly told story among musicians: You come back to the stage after taking one load to the van, only to discover the rest of the stuff has vanished.
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A guy here loaded his drums, went in to use the bathroom, had an accomplice of the thief buy him a beer on his way out and when he went out 10 minutes later his van was empty
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. But they no longer make some of the chips that were used in that machine, so if one of those go, it's goodbye to the Thunder. It's surprisingly possible to obtain such chips. There are two sources. One is that when chips are going obsolete, companies make a "last time buy" of as many as they think they may need, but they then go on to design the chip out of their product. Once they've done that, they often release much of that last-time stock back onto the market, so chips that were unavailable bcoume available again. They may release another tranche when they stop support for the product. The other is recycling. A surprising number of components are recycled from old equipment and end up back on the market. Those should be identified as recycled and some can be tested. That's always a risk, though. octopart.com can often help. Most ICs will go on for years provided the power supplies behave.
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Yes, but you have to find technicians with the skill level to analyze and identify the problem Integrated Circuit. Most service guys nowadays are 'board jockeys'. It's such a shame. But it's true.
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Most service guys nowadays are 'board jockeys'. Board exchange is pretty close to inevitable now with so many components so small that one needs a microscope, heat table, tiny heat gun and tweezers. Now I'm 70, it can be a struggle even doing that.  Fortunately most of my design prototypes get assembled by someone else now. A chip I'm using at this moment is 3mm square, has 10 under-chip pads on a 0.5mm pitch and has a central thermal pad under the centre of package. I've used smaller.
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What is a chip...lol My last design.  Some design schematics.  Billy
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“Amazing! I’ll be working with Jaco Pastorius, Charlie Parker, Art Tatum, and Buddy Rich, and you’re telling me it’s not that great of a gig?
“Well…” Saint Peter, hesitated, “God’s got this girlfriend who thinks she can sing…”
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LOL on that schematic! Looking forward to meeting you in person, Billy.
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Here you go Trev. I actually own a few transistors...lol Mullars stuff from a VOX T60 amp the Beatles Played   Billy EDIT: Mullard...spell check only understands tube electronics...lol
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“Amazing! I’ll be working with Jaco Pastorius, Charlie Parker, Art Tatum, and Buddy Rich, and you’re telling me it’s not that great of a gig?
“Well…” Saint Peter, hesitated, “God’s got this girlfriend who thinks she can sing…”
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LOL on that schematic! Looking forward to meeting you in person, Billy. Me 2, C U Saturday. Billy
“Amazing! I’ll be working with Jaco Pastorius, Charlie Parker, Art Tatum, and Buddy Rich, and you’re telling me it’s not that great of a gig?
“Well…” Saint Peter, hesitated, “God’s got this girlfriend who thinks she can sing…”
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Thanks Danny! Took your advice and went with a RocknRoller but I got the R8. Doesn't have the wide all-terrain tires but it weighs a heck of a lot less and su[pports the same weight. I figure if I find that I really need those wide tires, I can change them out to the all-terrains. Right now, other than size, weight is the most important criteria for me.
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One of the two day-jobs I had in my life was as a Cable TV field engineer, back in the 1970s when I tried unsuccessfully to quit music. I found out quitting music was a stupid idea for me.
When something broke, we were component jockeys. Amp, filter, equalizer, power supply, whatever. Pull it out, and replace it. Send it back to the factory where they had the sophisticated equipment to not only find out what was broken, but to make tests to try to see if anything else was likely to fail in that component.
And I remember when guitarists used to re-solder the phone plugs on their cables. Now they just buy new ones. Same for mic cables.
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And I remember when guitarists used to re-solder the phone plugs on their cables. Now they just buy new ones. On Sweetwater. From our computer. And they send them right to our houses! Times do indeed change. I remember when I had energy and motivation. LOL!
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One of the two day-jobs I had in my life was as a Cable TV field engineer, back in the 1970s when I tried unsuccessfully to quit music. I found out quitting music was a stupid idea for me.
When something broke, we were component jockeys. Amp, filter, equalizer, power supply, whatever. Pull it out, and replace it. Send it back to the factory where they had the sophisticated equipment to not only find out what was broken, but to make tests to try to see if anything else was likely to fail in that component.
And I remember when guitarists used to re-solder the phone plugs on their cables. Now they just buy new ones. Same for mic cables.
Times change. LOL, I remember when guitarists re-solder cables also. Like today...lol This is about as complicated as opening a can of beer. Letting the gun heat up takes two minutes, ten seconds to fix it, and ten seconds more to check the resistance value. I knew where it was broken before I unscrewed it. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt...lol Sweetwater solution Fender 0990820086 Deluxe Series Straight to Right Angle Instrument Cable - 15 foot Tweed 15' Instrument Cable with Gold-plated Connectors - Straight-Angled, Tweed $26.14 No thanks!  Billy EDIT: This all assumes you know how to solder and where your equipment is, and have some high-quality marine shrink tube...lol What it should look like when finished. 
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“Well…” Saint Peter, hesitated, “God’s got this girlfriend who thinks she can sing…”
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Soldering. UGH!!! I bought this to not have to bother with it anymore. 
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I still solder phone jacks.
Takes only a few minutes. I like Switchcraft brand phone jacks.
XLR Jacks? It depends. Some brands are a major PITA
I also remember when guitarists brought single strings instead of sets.
In my first band, when I was just a kid, the guitarist made his own light gauge set by buying a banjo string for the first, the E was second, B for third, a wound G for 4th, D for 5th and A for 6th. He learned the trick in Nashville. Black Diamond brand strings.
That was before the retailers started selling light gauge sets.
We toured the country in a car with a U-Haul trailer. We rented it for 6 months, and the dealer said just renew the lease wherever you are then. But nobody wanted to renew it. When the license became 2 years old, in the middle of the night, we backed it into a big U-Haul lot and left it there. I suppose the owner had a time trying to figure that one out.
We bought a used trailer for our gear and never painted it. It looked pretty rough on the outside, but we figured it looked like there was nothing valuable inside that way.
Those were fun days for me. Traveling college towns, playing singles bars, before DJs took over that end of the business.
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