Well, knowing they are not made anymore, that kind of narrows your odds of finding a new one, Wouldn't you agree?
Even when you buy it at a store it isn't "new". The store owned it first, possibly hundreds of shoppers have tested it. Everything is used to some degree. I'd like a new 1959 Edsel too...
That's like asking your baby to take his first steps again.
Well, knowing they are not made anymore, that kind of narrows your odds of finding a new one, Wouldn't you agree?
Even when you buy it at a store it isn't "new". The store owned it first, possibly hundreds of shoppers have tested it. Everything is used to some degree. I'd like a new 1959 Edsel too...
That's like asking your baby to take his first steps again.
Disagree totally Eddie, my experience in buying from a store or Amazon has been that the packaging/carton has not been opened so there's little risk of it being used/abused by a prior customer. I'm not talking about floor models or returns here; my policy is to not buy floor or returns, only new, especially when electronics are involved.
But that's not all. GuitarCenter (for example) has a very generous 45 day return policy. This I know about 1st hand as during the pandemic I bought a high-end Roland drum machine from them and after 2 weeks I determined it wasn't my thing. Two weeks after that I returned it for full refund; no questions asked. It was then put on the floor as used. With this policy and their competitive pricing, they will always have me as a customer.
Have you checked ebay's return policy?
As for narrowing odds, nope. There are other manufacturers (see above) that I can do business with.
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677 BiaB 2025 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
This photo brings back a memory from about 15 years ago.
We were attending a Church and one Sunday a guest trumpet player was introduced and played with a backing track for about an hour; he was good.
Inbetween songs he made a remarkable (to me anyway) statement. He said
If I skip a days practice, I notice it. If I skip 2 days practice my wife notices. If I skip 3 days practice the audience notices.
I wonder if this is specific to brass instruments because, in part, of the lip and breath control required. Or if this is true for pro muscians in general. Apparently for this guy, a vacation from his instrument was not an option.
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677 BiaB 2025 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
My brother, pro trumpet player in New York City who taught me how to play, got the gene that required at least four hours of practice per day. I got the gene that allows me to get the horn out of the case two days before a concert, check it over, play about an hour, and I’m ready for the gig. So I suppose different things work for different players. My practice is in my head.
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Dude, you said yourself they ain't made anymore, you have no option. So if want one you really do, used it will have to be. Packing, return policies.. all moot if they aren't made anymore. Wish in one hand and crap in the other and tell me which hand is full and which is empty.
Did the 1959 Edsel reference not explain that concept of "There ain't no mo' of these"?
Dude, you said yourself they ain't made anymore, you have no option. So if want one you really do, used it will have to be. Packing, return policies.. all moot if they aren't made anymore. Wish in one hand and crap in the other and tell me which hand is full and which is empty.
Did the 1959 Edsel reference not explain that concept of "There ain't no mo' of these"?
What part of I do have options don't you understand??
They aren't made anymore . . . check I buy only from outlets that offer return policies . . . check, not moot as you say Other manufacturers have acceptable product . . . check . . . for the 2nd time, see above No crap here . . . check Life is good . . . check
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677 BiaB 2025 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
Play through a Line6 Spyder 3 modeling amp and a 2x10 closed back cabinet.
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I recently picked up a Boss Katana 50 MKII (1x12" open back combo) modeling amp. It hooks up to the PC and has a program to create and save settings and whatnot similar to the Line6.
The JC-120 remains my #1, but the modeling amp is different, a lot of fun and very interesting.
Some days I seem to spend more time monkeying with different settings and effects than actually playing guitar.... I'm not playing the guitar, I'm playing the amp. Not a bad thing, though.
I do like the flexibility and options of the modeling amp. A lot of potential there.
@Matt I had a pair of Pioneer CS99a that I bought at the PX in Vietnam and shipped home. No markup, no tax, no duty. That was a nice perk for us. Bought those, a Son8y reel to reel, a power amp, 2 turntables... Since we got paid in military script, we weren't earning US dollars and paid no taxes. 18 months of that! Plus I was a good poker player and had a little loan business going. When the dopers were out of money (I was NOT a user) and needed 40 bucks to buy "things" I would lend it to them and on payday I stood at the end of the pay line with my notebook and they paid me 50 back. 40 for 50, 60 for 75, 80 for 100. That was what I called the "dope tax". LOL
I sold those speakers in 1999 for $400 each when I went to Bose..
Oh yeah... I've got a pretty red Strat copy that hangs on the wall. It's horrible to play (action is high, intonation is horrible, and cheap pickups) and it was given to me by a customer.... It looks good, and that's about all I can say about it.
Adjusting the action, setting the intonation and even replacing pickups on a Strat are actually fairly easy, at least straightforward and not very complex. I learned to do those sort of things (not because I like to but because I couldn't afford to pay someone else to do it). Basically, if I can do it anyone can.
Who knows, that Strat copy might be more than just good looking....
As a guitarist, yes, I'm aware of all that. In fact, I did work on this guitar including removing the old strings, adjusting the action and putting a new set of strings on it. None of that brought the action into a reasonably playable state. I realize that a high action by itself can be the source of intonation issues. I did not however, remove the bolted on neck and shim it so the angle of neck to body and string alignment was changed. Perhaps, one day when I have the time to mess with it, I will remove the strings and unbolt the neck and shim it to see if that will affect the play-ability of the guitar. It's worth giving it a try to see if it will make a difference.
I looked these guitars up on the internet and most comments are that they are very cheaply made in Indonesia and are not worth the cost to put a single good pickup on it. Folks are saying $20 to $50 on average. I was aware of that and as such, I don't plan on spending any money on it. Putting a shim in the neck doesn't cost a dime so I might try that.
For now, it's a great looking wall hanger that gets dusted every so often.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.com Add nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both.
The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
1. Fender Jazz Bass w/ flatwounds into a 40W Fender Bronco practice amp 2. Korg electronic keyboard into a pair of JBL monitors
Sweet! Very similar here too, Steve (nice name!)
1. Fender Jazz Bass w/Ernie Ball Slinky Cobalts into a Roland KC 500 Watt Keyboard amp or the JBL LSR 4328 8" Powered Monitors 2. Korg N5 electronic keyboard into the Roland or JBLs. 3. Fender Mexi Strat (matches black/white color scheme of the Jazz Bass) into the JBLs. 4. Yamaha DX-9 --> To Eddie, thanks sir.
You've done reasonable stuff.... I assume you checked the neck and its not bowed or warped, so I too think resetting the neck is about all that's left. Like you say, worth a try just to find out since you don't have to spend any money on it.
Good luck... have some fun with it and no matter what it can still be a great looking wall hanger.
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Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
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If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
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