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Hello, I thought this would take me 5 minutes but two hours later..
I am using _Thrash1.sty.
My first chord is a D and my second chord is an A. That is as far as I got!
The problem is it sounds so bad because the A bass guitar note is playing down a 5th from the D, instead of up a 7th.
I spent two hours on this so far, is there a solution? I would have thought so!

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there is an option to raise the bass by one octave. This is the case for both midi bass nor a real track bass. There was just a thread discussing this in the past day or two showing exactly how to make this happen. Sorry I am not at my computer right nowh

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I tried searching the forums and google using "raise the bass note in one bar by one octave", and variations on this, but unfortunately nothing useful came up.

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Originally Posted by Jademann
Hello, I thought this would take me 5 minutes but two hours later..
I am using _Thrash1.sty.
My first chord is a D and my second chord is an A. That is as far as I got!
The problem is it sounds so bad because the A bass guitar note is playing down a 5th from the D, instead of up a 7th.
I spent two hours on this so far, is there a solution? I would have thought so!
This is the thread that discusses how to raise the bass by an octave.
There are two solutions depending on the use of RealTracks or MIDI tracks.


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I believe I followed the instructions. I clicked on the bass track and pressed F7.
I confirmed that I have a real track for bass.
I clicked on editable audio and I set audio transpose to +12.
However, the whole bass track was transposed up an octave.

What I was trying to do was to make only the bass in the second bar with an A chord go up an octave.
This makes a big difference in how the song sounds..
I would think this would be a common request.

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in audio edit you can use amplify. Go to the mixer, select the track and select audio edit from the views tab, then expand or blow it up where you can see the section where the offending or quiet section is, highlight that area, go to edit, and select amplify, it will ask how many decibels, i would start small like maybe 2 to 5 decibels.


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Originally Posted by Rob Helms
in audio edit you can use amplify. Go to the mixer, select the track and select audio edit from the views tab, then expand or blow it up where you can see the section where the offending or quiet section is, highlight that area, go to edit, and select amplify, it will ask how many decibels, i would start small like maybe 2 to 5 decibels.
Hmmm.... I think this is an answer to a different issue crazy


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The _Thrash1 style is a style using RealTracks.

You may be able to achieve a suitable result using MultiRiff Generation:

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Unfortunately, that did not seem to work. I was up to MultiRiff variation 9/9, and in all of them the bass line continued to go down a 5th.

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I wonder if "Playable RealTracks" could assist?

From the help:
"This cool feature allows you to add MIDI notes (via the Piano Roll or Notation window) to the same track that is playing. And you will then hear that MIDI track playing, in most cases using a MIDI sound created from the RealTracks recording session. This means that you can get the track to play the notes you want at key parts of the performance, either augmenting or replacing what the RealTracks is playing, for the section you want to change."

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FWIW - I do most all of my work in my DAW, Studio One Pro 6 and I work in MIDI most all of the time. But if I ran into a problem like this here is what I would do:
1-get the song exactly as I want it while ignoring the bass problem.
2-move the entire song to my DAW
3-back in BiaB raise the base track up an octave - note I have my DAW in ASIO and BiaB in MME - thus both can be open simultaneously
4-move the raised base track to my DAW.
5-cut and paste the bass line to my satisfaction

I know this may or may not help as it just what I would do.

However I believe you should put a suggestion in the wishlist forum. I can see a big benefit for those whom work in BiaB with RTs.

PS - I have a question. Does the base sound OK raised an octave? I would guess there would be some sound problems raising it that amount. Or is the base buried in the mix so those artifacts are noticeable?


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Thanks for replies. I will investigate playable realtracks solution after work.
I feel this particular problem should be much easier.
I was actually trying to capture a passing resemblance to some parts of the theme of the TV show Californication. smile

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Originally Posted by AudioTrack
I wonder if "Playable RealTracks" could assist?

From the help:
"This cool feature allows you to add MIDI notes (via the Piano Roll or Notation window) to the same track that is playing. And you will then hear that MIDI track playing, in most cases using a MIDI sound created from the RealTracks recording session. This means that you can get the track to play the notes you want at key parts of the performance, either augmenting or replacing what the RealTracks is playing, for the section you want to change."
Even though the _Thrash1.sty RT387 Bass RealTrack doesn't have RealChart data, Playable RealTracks work and can be used to edit Bar 2 to play the correct octave.


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Originally Posted by AudioTrack
Originally Posted by Rob Helms
in audio edit you can use amplify. Go to the mixer, select the track and select audio edit from the views tab, then expand or blow it up where you can see the section where the offending or quiet section is, highlight that area, go to edit, and select amplify, it will ask how many decibels, i would start small like maybe 2 to 5 decibels.
Hmmm.... I think this is an answer to a different issue crazy


Trev, we all know i have different issues!


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Sadly, I was not able to get the notation to work, it says I am somehow missing font files. I did a clean installation when I bought it 2 months ago not sure how they could be missing. I installed a program called PG Music font update and that didn't work, I just see sticks where notes should be.
I really hope I dont have to download and install all this again?
Really stuck at this point. I tried to install font update again and it said error code 5, pgmus.ttf already installed.
This is what I see, and I can't edit the notes.

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Your screenshot looks normal. It looks like you are viewing the Bass track, and there doesn't happen to be any notation on the bass. The Slashes are just a way of indicating that it is an empty bar. There is a setting to show/hide slashes in the notation window options.

If you generated a RealTrack and there is no notation showing, this is because that particular RT does not have a transcription (RealCharts) available. This is the case for some of the older RT's. In the RealTracks window, there is a column "Chart", and it is either blank (no notation), N (notation), or Gt (notation, including accurate tab for guitar/bass).

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really hope I dont have to download and install all this again?
You should definitely not do that, and there would be no point. If you WERE having a font issue, there is a small font installer in the Band-in-a-Box folder you can run (C:\bb\Data\Installers\bbfonts.exe).
Just to be complete, the error message (error code 5) typically means that a file (in this case, likely the font file) was open/in use when the installer was trying to replace it.


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Thanks for reply. I was able to get notation to work and I changed the bass realtrack to one in which the notation is editable. (Bass, Electric, BritInvasion Ev 140)
I was able to transpose each of the notes up an octave but when I actually play it nothing changed, the bass still goes down a 5th.
Is there one more step I am missing?

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After you made the changes to the note(s), did you freeze the track before generating?


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I did not change freeze setting, I dont know how. I also did not generate. Where is this located?
I pressed the play button with the + which says generate when I hover over it.
However, it overwrites the new notes with the original notes.

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