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I'm currently using BAND IN A BOX2023, but I'm very interested in improving the functionality of 2024.
When will the release date be?

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Originally Posted by takashis
I'm currently using BAND IN A BOX2023, but I'm very interested in improving the functionality of 2024.
When will the release date be?
Generally it is released in about the first week of December. Nobody knows for certain at this stage, except for relying on historical data.


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I can't help but look forward to the improvements in 2024, including support for VST3, improved compatibility between real audio and MIDI, and the introduction of AI technology.

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Originally Posted by takashis
I can't help but look forward to the improvements in 2024, including support for VST3, improved compatibility between real audio and MIDI, and the introduction of AI technology.
Have you been given some "insider tips" that none of us know about ? confused


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Originally Posted by AudioTrack
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I can't help but look forward to the improvements in 2024, including support for VST3, improved compatibility between real audio and MIDI, and the introduction of AI technology.
Have you been given some "insider tips" that none of us know about ? confused

Usually, the beta testers find ways of leaking the goodies. I've not heard anything so am not as confident as some that we'll see BIAB 2024 for Windows before the new year. BIAB for the Mac generally drops sometime between March and September following the Windows release.


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Originally Posted by Mike Halloran
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Originally Posted by takashis
I can't help but look forward to the improvements in 2024, including support for VST3, improved compatibility between real audio and MIDI, and the introduction of AI technology.
Have you been given some "insider tips" that none of us know about ? confused

Usually, the beta testers find ways of leaking the goodies...
Really? I haven’t noticed that. “Usually”? Do you have examples you can cite?


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I don't care when it comes out. Lets not rush them. Let them get as many bugs out as possible. Peter indicated some suggestions are being applied so if it is a major change then PGM take your time to debug.


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In the years I have been using BiaB, I have never identified any information of a future release being published anywhere, except for statements that PG Music themselves might make.


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"Let them get as many bugs out as possible."
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Originally Posted by Matt Finley
....Usually, the beta testers find ways of leaking the goodies...
Really? I haven’t noticed that. “Usually”? Do you have examples you can cite?
Originally Posted by PeterGannon
...We are hoping to address that with years release. Hopefully this will be what you’re looking for. There have been lots of great suggestions, from those in this thread and on the forum, and we hope that we have incorporated many of them.

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Originally Posted by musocity
Originally Posted by Matt Finley
....Usually, the beta testers find ways of leaking the goodies...
Really? I haven’t noticed that. “Usually”? Do you have examples you can cite?
Originally Posted by PeterGannon
...We are hoping to address that with years release. Hopefully this will be what you’re looking for. There have been lots of great suggestions, from those in this thread and on the forum, and we hope that we have incorporated many of them.
Musocity, what were you trying to accomplish by quoting me out of context and making it appear as if I said beta testers leak news? And do you consider Peter Gannon a beta tester?


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"Do you have examples you can cite?"
Originally Posted by PeterGannon
...We are hoping to address that with years release. Hopefully this will be what you’re looking for. There have been lots of great suggestions, from those in this thread and on the forum, and we hope that we have incorporated many of them.
It's a joke ! Peter does beta test, he is not an end user.

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Originally Posted by musocity
"Do you have examples you can cite?"
Originally Posted by PeterGannon
...We are hoping to address that with years release. Hopefully this will be what you’re looking for. There have been lots of great suggestions, from those in this thread and on the forum, and we hope that we have incorporated many of them.
It's a joke ! Peter does beta test, he is not an end user.
I'm pleased that you clarified the 'funny' side of your perspective even though it is not amusing at all. I genuinely doubt that anyone other than PG Music staff have ever publicized anything in advance of official release statements.

That being said, I really think we should all watch this space. Something must surely be getting close by now ?


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Well, 2024 is now available.

I still do not appreciate being quoted in such a manner as to make it look like I said the opposite of what I actually said.


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Originally Posted by Matt Finley
Well, 2024 is now available.

I still do not appreciate being quoted in such a manner as to make it look like I said the opposite of what I actually said.
Originally Posted by Matt Finley
Originally Posted by Mike Halloran
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I can't help but look forward to the improvements in 2024, including support for VST3, improved compatibility between real audio and MIDI, and the introduction of AI technology.
Have you been given some "insider tips" that none of us know about ? confused

Usually, the beta testers find ways of leaking the goodies...
Really? I haven’t noticed that. “Usually”? Do you have examples you can cite?
It is your quote ! you wanted someone to cite times when things were leaked, they could be down the bar having one too many to drink or in a pm.
I can read between lines of beta testers as what is being said, I don't need no examples.

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No. Please read carefully.


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Musocity, I think the following line is the line of concern. It was written by Mike, but in your quoted texts had apparently been attributed to Matt. I imagine that the Beta testers are sworn to secrecy, so the apparent attribution may well be awkward.
Originally Posted by Mike Halloran
Usually, the beta testers find ways of leaking the goodies...
To me the Beta testers seem pretty leak-proof.


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Gordon is correct.

I’ve been a beta tester for many companies for many decades. Yes, beta testers are always sworn to secrecy. I took Mike’s slam on their integrity seriously and asked for examples. I’ve heard none cited in response. Then I was quoted out of context and in a faulty way by Musocity to make it appear I was the one who made the slam. I could not let that pass unchallenged, either.


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Don't worry Matt.

I think he was just referring to PG's discussions, after dark, when he is available to consider certain projects, like Vst3 for example. No one has questioned your integrity.


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