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Hello folks.
In the last 5 weeks I've created about 20 songs and scrapped 14 of them.
For the remaining 6, I've rendered them to wav. Dropped them into Mixcraft Pro 10 and adjusted from there. All has been well, until today.
I felt that one track needed remaking in a new key at a slightly slower speed, so remade it from scratch. BIAB is set to Key of G, speed 135.
Chords are very simple and are G C and D7.
EVERY time I render it, it renders to G# C# and eb7
Nothing changes it. I've remade it now 5 times, rebuilt the data, rechecked the settings, started a totally new Mixcraft project and checked that MX is set to G and 135. No joy.
Only ONE change that I'm aware of is Update to version 09 of BIAB done today.
Any thoughts please?
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It sounds like you have a global transpose flag set someplace. I can't get to my music computer right now but look up transpose in the index.
FWIW I have noticed that sometimes an upgrade may change a setting. That may have happened to you.
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Check the visual transpose setting as mentioned - it's in the notation window options.
Also, to narrow it down, make sure to listen to an exported wave file prior to importing it into Mixcraft, make sure it sounds the same as played in BiaB. Are you using the DAW Plugin (v.6.0.13) or are you using the full Band-in-a-Box program and rendering from there?
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Hi J,
This is worth a try...
Under Song Settings (access it by right-clicking on the chord sheet), check that "Transpose Artist Performance Tracks by semitones:" is set to zero and preferably unchecked.
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--Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2025
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I concur you triggered a transposition. There are a few ways to do that. If you can’t figure it out, there is a quick solution: Options, Return to Factory Settings. It’s a sledge hammer for a nail but it will work.
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Well, folks...
I checked everything you suggested, and saw no problems. I am, by the way, NOT using BIAB for any mixing, but rendering the tracks and then manually moving them to Mixcraft.
HOWEVER, I found the fault!!! In the Audio render window, the sample rate had changed from 44.1 to 48khz all on it's own. (Maybe due to the update?)
Mixcraft was set for 44.1, which I use for all BIAB work as I know that the P.A. will not deliver any remotely HIFI sound when I use the tracksw for backing!!!
So, many thanks to you all. You've given me new insight into the programme by making me look at new things.
All is now well, I'm happy to report!
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Excellent outcome John, and thanks for posting your findings.
Please consider to open your original post and mark it as Resolved. There's a button for that. This can help others in the future.
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Hi!!
I did look for a "resolved" button. I think I used it once before, but can I find it? No.
Mind you, my wife would tell you that for someone who stares into the fridge looking for something directly infront of him, this is normal behaviour!!
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Hi!!
I did look for a "resolved" button. I think I used it once before, but can I find it? No.
Mind you, my wife would tell you that for someone who stares into the fridge looking for something directly infront of him, this is normal behaviour!! This button appears only in your first post of a thread. Did you look there?
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Are you related to my wife??!!
I daren't show her this thread!!!
Thank you.
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No, but I'll bet you found the button in the last place you looked.  By the way, if the key change had been identified as a little more than a half-step off (somewhat closer to a full step), I would have zeroed in on the 48 KHz answer immediately. I've seen (heard) that before. Glad you figured it out.
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