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Transition

The title transition is based on how this song originated to how it was finished. On 4/7 BobH and I were jamming to a low volume click track. Consequently we varied the temp. Also there were gaps in our playing and the tone of Bob's guitar was very trebly. No matter what I did I could not get the timing perfect, even with Melodyne, or vary the guitar tone to our satisfaction, thus we decide to junk it. A couple weeks later I had the idea to convert Bob's guitar audio track to MIDI as you all know I work better in MIDI than audio. In MIDI I corrected that tempo, eliminated the gaps, and either rewrote or copy and pasted a couple of small parts of Bob's guitar track to what you hear now, hence the title Transition. I added the backing tracks and jammed along using my Squire P-Bass and my Xaviere 335 guitar.

BiaB Style - Bushwick MIDI sw-16 Smooth Funk
Tempo - 120 BPM
I deleted the bass.
Utility track - Keys of the 70's - Stage Mark 73 full
Piano - Keys of the 70's - Stage Mark 73 full and Lounge Lizard - tine based - Dark 1
Guitar - Kontakt - Celesta
Drums - various Kontakt Steven slate's SSD-5 drums
Bob's guitar track - UVI Workstation - Jazz Guitar sterio.

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Mario,

This sounds great. Everything is seamless. A very successful "transition". smile

Excellent in every way!

Bob

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Originally Posted by rsdean
Mario,

This sounds great. Everything is seamless. A very successful "transition". smile

Excellent in every way!

Bob

Thanx so much Bob!


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Ha! Great job of salvaging a musical idea and performance. I'd NEVER be patient enough (or skilled enough) for that. Super song, Mario. Everything sounds great and the journey it took to get it done is completely transparent to the listener. You guys just ooze music (but not in a gross way). Enjoyed!


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Originally Posted by DC Ron
Ha! Great job of salvaging a musical idea and performance. I'd NEVER be patient enough (or skilled enough) for that. Super song, Mario. Everything sounds great and the journey it took to get it done is completely transparent to the listener. You guys just ooze music (but not in a gross way). Enjoyed!

Thanx Ron. Yes the only reason I saved this song was because of Bob's rhythm track. I'm glad it came out transparent to the listener as that was my main goal.

PS - I'm sure YOU could do it also if you wanted to learn how to do it.


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Yeow, what another cool Sunday jam with you and Bob, and what a crafty collection of corrections. I listened a few times to try to detecty your MIDI work. Seamless. No visible stitches from the musical surgeon. Much enjoyed, Mario.


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Cool Jam ... nice !!!


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Originally Posted by BabuMusic
Yeow, what another cool Sunday jam with you and Bob, and what a crafty collection of corrections. I listened a few times to try to detecty your MIDI work. Seamless. No visible stitches from the musical surgeon. Much enjoyed, Mario.

Thanx Marty, I'm glad you like our little jams.

Originally Posted by Elliott Kayne
Cool Jam ... nice !!!

Thanx Elliott.


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I certainly wouldn't have the patience to do that (I'm more of a throw everything away and start over kind of guy), but you did a really good job.
Nice!

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Nice jam session Mario and Bob!
Cool sounding production!
I like how you just let it roll and whatever happens, happens!
Take care, TB

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Originally Posted by B.D.Thomas
I certainly wouldn't have the patience to do that (I'm more of a throw everything away and start over kind of guy), but you did a really good job.
Nice!

Brian, if you are going deep into BiaB then you have the patience to do it! Note I don't have the patience to go deep into BiaB!

Thanx for listening.


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Originally Posted by Torrey Bliss
Nice jam session Mario and Bob!
Cool sounding production!
I like how you just let it roll and whatever happens, happens!
Take care, TB

Thanx Torrey. I am a firm believer that first time recordings are the best. Sometimes you can correct a few bad oops and sometimes you can let a minor oop slide through. I was never a believer of making many tracks and cutting and pasting to make a good one. I am not knocking those that do that it is just not my style; I'll take an emotional track with a wart or two over a super polished technically correct track that lacks emotion. Note that some can cut and paste an emotional track but not me as I get bored if I have to play the same line over and over and over.


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Hi, Mario.

Smacky drums! If you hadn't said you MIDIfied the guitar, I'd never have guessed.

Nice jam! smile


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Originally Posted by dcuny
Hi, Mario.

Smacky drums! If you hadn't said you MIDIfied the guitar, I'd never have guessed.

Nice jam! smile

Thanx David. In the past I have MIDIfied guitar tracks to add an instrument to the audio guitar track; instruments like a zither, music box, marimba, and vibes work well. This is the first time I have replaced a recorded audio track with MIDI, that is with the exception of converting RTs to MIDI, something I rarely have to do now.


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Jammin'
Sounds like a bar band getting lost in a sound check that was too good to stop...
...because it's all about the music.

smile

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Turned out nicely. Sounds like you put a lot of work into this one. Good job.

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Originally Posted by floyd jane
Jammin'
Sounds like a bar band getting lost in a sound check that was too good to stop...
...because it's all about the music.

smile

fj

Thanx Floyd, that is a very good description of the jam.

Originally Posted by gman97040
Turned out nicely. Sounds like you put a lot of work into this one. Good job.

Thanx gman. Yes I did do a lot of work in this one, a lot more than I normally do.


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The drums are what jumped out to me on this one.
Great jam.

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Originally Posted by Bass Thumper
The dums are what jumped out to me on this one.
Great jam.

Thanx Steve. I liked that drum track also.

PS - I hope you meant drums wink


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Originally Posted by MarioD
Thanx Steve. I liked that drum track also.

PS - I hope you meant drums wink

Oooops! I guess I was the one who was "dums" smile


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