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Hi
I have an old song of mine that was written in 4/4 time even though it was full of triplet eighth notes. I want to redo it in 6/8 time. Unfortunately, there are not many B & B Styles in 6/8 so they recommend using 4/4 triplet feel. Well... I've tried for 2 days to get a 4/4 triplet feel track to line up with the main beats of a vocal that was recorded in 6/8 at 65BPM. I've checked ChatGPT and been given all these different timings to use but always the 4/4 track plays slower than the original 6/8 in my DAW. I still want to use B & B style so I can add solos etc. but cannot get things to line up. My DAW is Studio One.
Has anyone ever been successful in adding 4/4 tracks to a 6/8 recording? If so, please let me know how to do it.
I have Time Stretch turned off on the tracks in my DAW. I'm recording from B&B at the same bit rate. I'm totally confused.
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Howdy Paul....
Have you tried to use 3/4 time vs 4/4?
Twice as many bars but may work.
Personally, I don't write waltz type time signatures but my buddy wrote one long go in 6/8.
I could find nothing usable.
I love BIAB but that's always been a minor annoyance to accept with such a fine program.
Hope that helps a bit.
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I love BIAB but that's always been a minor annoyance to accept with such a fine program.
......................... It may be a minor annoyance for you but for those of us whom want to record something in other than 3/4/ or 4/4 it is a major problem, especially when one goes from BiaB to a DAW.
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Hi. It's more than a minor annoyance. I can't believe B in a B just tell us to use 4/4 with a triplet feel! I don't think they've ever tried to actually do that. PITA!
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Howdy. My song is similar in form and sound to Billy Joel's Piano Man (of course - not as good!) I had a couple of different singers (found online) record it at 4/4 even though it's triplets all the way through. It never sounded right. So using EZKeys I got a decent 6/8 piano accompaniment and a drum track using 6/8 EZ Drummer and a bass using EZ Bass - thank God for those programs! But I really need a harmonica solo or some other instrument and I've always been able to do this using B in a Box if the song was 4/4 time.
I'm using the EZ programs more and more and B in a B hardly at all nowadays. Too bad.
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I wrote a tool years ago for this, it may be helpful. There are a few different calculators on the page, but I tried to describe what they do .. I *think the 3rd one down does what you want. I like math, but not in the middle of recording .. so I created this for quick dirty work. http://tools.masteringmatters.com//since your song is 6/8 I'd half the existing tempo and use 3/4 in the top two boxes .. then put 4/4 in the bottom box ; *should show the new 4/4 tempo once calculated steps - enter half the existing tempo in top box (if it is currently 132 tempo enter 66 .. 132 divided by 2 = 66) enter a 3 in second box enter a 4 in third box Click Calculate Solution shows under the 'new tempo' label I should write it so it does all the odd time sigs, but like I said it was a quickie project to save myself time.
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Does the post below help? https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=735804#Post735804Extra information for the post... while BIAB doesn't accept tempos with a decimal point, Realband does. So although the above post was written with Cubase in mind, it's possible to do what's needed in Realband (if you have the Windows version of BIAB).
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[quote=chulaivet1966].I It may be a minor annoyance for you but for those of us whom want to record something in other than 3/4/ or 4/4 it is a major problem, especially when one goes from BiaB to a DAW. Mornin' Mario and Paul.... I was intentionally gentle with my response because I know this has come up before and didn't want to come off as argumentative. I did not mean to diminish the 6/8 importance that others need for their creations. Forgive me, I did not mean to come across the way. I'm truly baffled as to why there isn't a lot more styles in 6/8. It's not like it's some cryptic time sig.. Sincerely. clv .
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[quote=chulaivet1966].I It may be a minor annoyance for you but for those of us whom want to record something in other than 3/4/ or 4/4 it is a major problem, especially when one goes from BiaB to a DAW. Mornin' Mario and Paul.... I was intentionally gentle with my response because I know this has come up before and didn't want to come off as argumentative.. I did not mean to diminish the 6/8 importance that others actually need for their creations. Forgive me, if I did come across the way. I'm truly baffled as to why there isn't a lot more styles in 6/8. Sincerely. clv . No problem my friend. BiaB is a fantastic piece of software but has some major problems. What is not a issue for one user is a major problem for another. This is the case for time signatures.
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[quote=chulaivet1966] No problem my friend. BiaB is a fantastic piece of software but has some major problems. What is not a issue for one user is a major problem for another. This is the case for time signatures. I hate being misinterpreted on forum responses.  *IIRC*....this topic goes back years and all I recall is some work-around being suggested by the BIAB team. So no, it's not a 'minor annoyance'....it's a determining one for many and I get that. I just didn't phrase my response with proper empathy. I"m old! We have some great forums here and I try to avoid creating any negative drama. Thanks for coming back Mario.
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We have some great forums here and I try to avoid creating any negative drama. I on the other hand love "DRAMA". I have a special project I am working on. It is fully 6/8 vibe (currently Drum, Bass and Piano). And in my experience BIAB won't touch this song! No work arounds I can find to fit this into the box or the box into this. In fact, I would challange anyone to prove my wrong. I can provide my 6/8 backing in MIDI or Audio if some one feels they can add any RT soloist to this which would add something musical!
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That seems like a pretty fair challenge.
Does it have to be BiaB or can it be done in RB?
Therein lies the real challenge .. one I may accept, one I will likely not ..
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DrDan.
just a suggestion...
post the midi somewhere plus audio and indicate what rt instrument sound you want in your project ideally so people can have a crack at your problem useing pg software.
if the chord structure is complex with advanced extensions .might be a good idea to include the chords so people can see what they can do for you useing pg software and content.
i might have a go myself..once i finish ongoing song projects to see if i can succeed or fail the challenge.
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I have a special project I am working on. It is fully 6/8 vibe (currently Drum, Bass and Piano). And in my experience BIAB won't touch this song! No work arounds I can find to fit this into the box or the box into this. In fact, I would challange anyone to prove my wrong. I can provide my 6/8 backing in MIDI or Audio if some one feels they can add any RT soloist to this which would add something musical! It can be done, Dan. It's necessary to keep the ratio 2/3 (or 3/2, depending on which direction you are going in) handy so that you can calculate the tempo change needed to match 6/8 with 4/4. I explain it more fully at the following link. (It's kind of like stoichiometry but with BIAB rather than chemistry.) https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=735804#Post735804--Noel
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Definitely doable. In addition to changing the tempo by 2/3 you also need to reduce the chord durations by 1/2. Problem can be when you do the math on the tempo change and it comes up with a fraction, because you can't enter fractions for tempo in BIAB. I asked if there was a workaround for that back in 2018 and Floyd helped me out: https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=491560#Post491560
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Oh boy, I didn't expect that. I guess I had forgotten how much we have spoken about this subject over the years, and the fact that there are some strong advocates for the 6/8 workarounds. I revisited the referenced links this morning and have now decided to withdrawn my challenge since the workaround has been detailed here in the forum in the past. In fact I took a little time to begin to go down that rabbit hole. I got as far as moving the chords which were written in EZK2 in Reaper, over to BIAB. I was immediately hit with the lack of accurate chord recognition in BIAB combined with the placement of chords. Every measure in BIAB had two measures of 6/8 (this was discussed by Noel in the reference thread). I could deal with it, but it did turn me off. So I stopped the effort. Fact is this current project is building well in Reaper using EZK, EZB, EZD and Kontakt. So I will acquiesce that the task is doable, however, don't want to waste anyone’s time forcing this square peg into a round hole. For those interested, here is a sneak peek at the 6/8 project. Vocals have not yet been entered. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rGRTiXHLpLdpPwNMnrFI75LJMEigm-J1/view?usp=sharingThanks to all for the input. Dan
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Dan, I really liked your song.
For any song other than 3/4 or 4/4 it is best to stay away from BiaB. Yes there are workarounds but they are a PITA and still not compatible with the outside world. In this day and age BiaB should be easily workable in all time signatures.
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Could not agree more with you Mario. I have always wanted BIAB to play better with other music apps in order to bring the best of all music making things together (...compatible with the outside world, as you say).
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BiaB can already make music in any time signature, except the n/8 where n is odd like (1/8, 3/8…)
Existing time signatures can include
1/4, 2/4, 3/4, 4/4, 5/5, 6/4, 7/4…. 11/4 etc.
3/8, 6/8, 9/8, 12/8 also supported.
The thing that bugs people is that for time signatures higher than 4.4, like 5/4, 7/4 etc. we have a bar of 3/4 + 2/4. So you enter the bar of 7/4 over two bars instead of one. And in the case of 6/8 you enter two bars
On this discussion, people saying that we don’t have 6/8, 9/8, 12/8 time signature support is baffling to me.
For example, for 12/8. You can set the notation time signature to 12/8 and view 12/8 notation. And you can enter 3 chords per beat, which is 12 chords per bar. And more importantly, 100% of the styles, realtracks, realdrums work with these time signatures.
If you’re looking for something like 11/8 or 5/8, you’re correct in that we don’t support those yet.
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Paul, You may have made a mistake in the DAW when you set the time signature. This is a common mistake.m 6/8 with triplet feel has three 8th notes per beat. So the DAW (e.g. Reaper) typically gives you two options. To either: For a triplet feel 6/8 song …. (Right!) - set 6/8 as a compound time signature with THREE 8th notes per beat, and you tap your foot every three 8th notes. . Or (Wrong!) - set 6/8 as TWO 8th notes per beat and you tap your foot every two 8th notes Here’s an example of a user post that has this problem. Note this doesn’t involve biab, it just within his DAW. And as a result of this mistake, he has two tempos for the same song. Since it is a triplet song, there is only one tempo, which is 53, and so the DAW considering it to be a tempo of 80 is simply wrong, and fixed by resetting the time signature to triplet feel (compound) 6/8. ‘I have a midi track in my DAW that is in 6/8 time. Tempo is set to quarter note = 80; i.e. dotted quarter note = 53” https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=735804#Post735804
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Our Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK are loaded with amazing add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is included with most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows packages, but you can unlock even more—including 20 unreleased RealTracks—by upgrading to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49. Browse the full contents of each package and listen to demos here.
XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
The XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs special offers are now available until August 31st at 11:59pm PDT!
Ready to take your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 experience to the next level? Now’s the perfect time! Expand your style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs—packed with a wide variety of genres to inspire your next musical creation.
What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?
XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-9 includes 900 styles!
Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). With over 3,500 styles (and 35 MIDI styles) included in Xtra Styles PAKs 1-20, the possibilities are endless!
Get the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.
Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Get Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 19 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Don’t miss this chance to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box setup—at a great price!
Mac 2025 Special Upgrade Offers Extended Until August 15th!
It's not too late to upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® and save! We've extended our special until August 15, 2025!
We've added many major new features to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, including advanced AI tools like the amazing BB Stem Splitter and AI Lyrics Generator, as well as VST3 plugin support, and Equalize Temp. Plus, there’s a new one-stop MIDI Patches Picker with over 1,100 MIDI patches to choose from, all neatly categorized by GM numbers. The MultiPicker Library is enhanced with tabs for the SongPicker, MIDI Patch Picker, Chord Builder, AI Lyrics Generator, and Song Titles Browser, and the tabs are organized into logical groups. The Audiophile Edition is enhanced with FLAC files , which are 60% smaller than AIFF files while maintaining identical audio quality, and now ships on a fast 1TB SSD, and much more!
Check out all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® here:
Purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac during our special to save up to 50% off your upgrade purchase and receive a FREE BONUS PAK of amazing new Add-ons. These include the 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK, Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana, Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes, MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano, Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7, Playable RealTracks Set 4, RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark, and more!
Upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and add 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and 20 RealStyles, FLAC Files for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks, Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster, MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster, Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8, and RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe.
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs!
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