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...whoever you are.
Thank You.
I Truly appreciate the work you do. It is nothing short of Amazing.
Band-In-A-Box gets better. All the time.
The recent improvements should be celebrated.
In the past, auditioning RealTracks was slow. Somewhat cumbersome. To the point of annoying?
That is no longer the case. This is just one example (of the improvements).
This should be celebrated.
Typically, I will attempt to find Every RealTrack that MIGHT work in my current production.
(I sometimes try out Styles, but I prefer to roll-my-own - so "walk the RealTracks")
I create a basic "band" - drums, bass, guitar strum.
Then I walk through the RT list, top to bottom.
I skip sections that don't apply at the moment - "...accordion isn't right for this... banjo, no...I've got the Bass.."
I double-click to listen quickly to any RT that MIGHT "work"...
In the past, this took a very long time. Forever.
And if you wanted to hear that RT actually play your chord chart - that took even LONGER.
No Longer The Case.
Playback is almost instantaneous.
This should be celebrated.
I have set up my basic BAND for a new production - drums, bass, strum.
I'm not sure when it happened, but... WOW!
When I double-click an RT now, it immmediately begins playing my chords.
And I can determine QUICKLY if it is maybe right.
If it has possibilities, I drop the track to my current production folder. In seconds.
And move on to the next slot.
Thank You.
Y'all seem to get dumped on all the time.
I want you to know you are appreciated.
I think it is time that you are celebrated.
So...
Thank You.
Thank You.Thank You.Thank You.Thank You.Thank You.Thank You.Thank You.Thank You.Thank You.Thank You.Thank You.Thank You.Thank You.Thank You.Thank You.Thank You.Thank You.Thank You.Thank You.Thank You.Thank You.Thank You.Thank You.Thank You.Thank You.Thank You.
Band-In-A-Box is Amazing.
YOU....whoever you are...are AMAZING.
THANK YOU
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I'm with floyd 1,000%.
BIAB is powerful and it's incredible what it can do. All the programmers and software builders have created a truly outstanding product. I've said it many times over many years, but every time I use BIAB, I marvel at how easy it is to create a polished and superior musical backing. The power in that 'Generate' button is enormous, and the result it gives me is so far beyond my abilities to produce that I never stop being amazed.
My workflow is similar to floyd's and like floyd, I regularly scroll through and test tracks. I usually use an 8-bar chord progression in the key in which I'm writing a particular song. Just recently, I was looking for background fill-in audio in the 65 bpm range. I had no instrument specifically in mind, so I simply sorted the Realtracks by tempo and worked my way through every Realtrack from 50 – 80 bpm. I set the tempo to that of my song (62 bpm) and generated and listened to each track. It was so easy to do and so fast!
Honestly, with every year that passes, and every new release that comes along, the program just gets better and better and better.
Thank you everyone for helping me to expand my musical abilities. You are brilliant and I sincerely appreciate all you've done. Please don't stop.
Thank you!
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MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2025
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Floyd has said it all, thank you so much PG Music.
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I also agree.
My observation is that we don't live in a competition-free world.
My concern is that the competition is getting stronger by the day.
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677BiaB 2025 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
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Well said Floyd, I agree.
Although I have complained about a few things virtually all of my songs start in BiaB, and for that I am very grateful.
It is a great product.
I got banned from Weight Watchers for dropping a bag of M&Ms on the floor.
It was the best game of Hungry Hippos I've ever seen!
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AND...
Finally....After OVER A DECADE....
Apple is beginning to Think about catching up.
Y'all should be Damn Proud.
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AND...
Finally....After OVER A DECADE....
Apple is beginning to Think about catching up.
Y'all should be Damn Proud. I'm as "happy as a clam" with BiaB and PGM should be proud. But it isn't just Apple that's in this space. And yesterday's accomplishments by no means guarantees tomorrow's success. I think more about tomorrow than I do yesterday, but that's just me.
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677BiaB 2025 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
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Well said Floyd. I use Band-in-a-box everyday of life and am still constantly amazed by this product.
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But it isn't just Apple that's in this space. And yesterday's accomplishments by no means guarantees tomorrow's success.
I think more about tomorrow than I do yesterday, but that's just me. Please do not turn this into another "BIAB isn't good enough" thread.
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fj..
well said...kudos.
as i have a background in IT let me say what pg has achieved is remarkable (and rb). as ive said before the only way to appreciate pg apps is if someone takes a few programming courses....
these types of products arent trivial...
do i want certain things ??..sure...but at the same time i admire what a small canadian company has achieved on the world stage.
om....
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my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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I'm with floyd 1,000%. Well said.
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I agree with Floyd as well. i also understand what BT is saying. What PGM has accomplished is remarkable, but they can't rest on their laurels. The new wave of AI is coming. BiaB took some great steps in the last 2 years. Workflow has gotten better and far easier to use. It does not need a bunch of changes this next year just some really nice cleanup efforts. Still super kudos to PGM and also to you Floyd who i have followed for a long time and learned a lot from your video a while back, and from the comments you have made.
This is where i start every project i do musically. Excellent idea to give PG and his team a good old pat on the back for a job well done over the years. So many of have benefitted by this creative program.
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Thank you Coders, Developers and Peter Gannon.
What I find most amazing is the software programs can handle every type of musical content I can think of. At the same time you've developed proprietary content that leads the industry.
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...whoever you are.
Thank You.
I Truly appreciate the work you do. It is nothing short of Amazing.
Band-In-A-Box gets better. All the time.
The recent improvements should be celebrated.
fj I agree... since the floppy-disk days, BiaB has been, and still is an invaluable tool in my music production studio... Thanks PGM.
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In the end we put our money where our mouths are.
Every year for decades I pony up my $$$ for the improvements in Biab software.
I have always felt it was worth the money.
Can’t say that about most software.
Tip of the hat.
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I barely touch the sides with what BIAB can do.
I type in my chords, use the form interface to set up a rough structure then audition a style or three to get a vague idea. I then export the tracks flat, centred etc.
I save the files. Start a new Reaper project, select the PG VST, throw the tracks in and drop markers.
After that I replace what I can with my own playing using the chord chart to guide/keep pace with me & then tweak, back in BIAB, those I'll be keeping...including Multi riff work on the finally selected solo instrument.
It's a fabulous program that others who are more on the tech side might find occasionally limiting or limited but, like REAPER, it's full of wonderful unused bits that I discover as I go.
I couldn't go back to how I wrote & recorded before my BIAB 2011.
Do I occasionally come up against frustrations - yep. Those are usually in features that most other users don't bother with, (like multi "stem" drums), so I know they're not major, won't get sorted quickly and I can work around the problem easy enough.
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Cheers
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Definitely agree! I'm sure we all recognize a few of their names here on the forums but I would guess there are a few more who sit in isolation, spend hours writing, testing, starting over and finally getting to that eureka point. To all of those....many thanks!
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Ditto to what Floyd said.
I don't know what I'd be doing musically if it wasn't for what PG and BB has allowed me to do. I certainly don't have the money necessary to have hired studio musicians to play the parts I use in my songs with BB.
Thanks for this great product. And yeah, it keeps getting better with every year.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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![[Linked Image from janiceandbud.com]](https://www.janiceandbud.com/uploads/4/4/3/1/44312/awesome_orig.gif) PG Music products and forums over the past 12 years have allowed us to make real friendships, gain a ton of production knowledge and enabled our songs to be produced well enough to be licensed multiple times and played around the planet. That means a LOT to us. Thank you. J&B
Our albums and singles are on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, YouTube Music, Pandora and more. If interested search on Janice Merritt. Thanks! Our Videos are here on our website.
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New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.
Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)
And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.
You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
The 2025 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2025 49-PAK!
Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac!
With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 29 new RealTracks and 45+ new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
- Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
- Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
- Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
- Playable RealTracks Set 4
- RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
- SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
- 128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
- Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
- Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
- RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®!
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins
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