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Don’t know if this is the right forum to ask, but I’ve done a lot of RealTrack recordings with the next step down from the WAVs and sometimes I feel like I can hear some diminished quality, especially with acoustic guitars, etc.
I was going to upgrade to the Audiophile version but have since read this is actually a result of the software adjusting the pitch for different chords (or however the system works) and the sound quality improvement is not that significant.
Thanks in advance for any insight!
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Welcome to the forum. I wrote an article on this eight years ago, and I continue to revise it whenever warranted. Take a look here: https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=378939#Post378939
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Wow! Thanks so much. Exactly what I was looking for and the other comments on that thread were helpful as well.
Going with the audiophile version as I was planning.
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When listening through my studio monitors and Steven Slate Audio VSX Modeling Headphones system, I do hear a difference. Although my auditory range is wider than most my age, I am still 70 years old and am surprised that I can hear any differences at all. I do wish that the Audiophile Tracks could be downloaded and that we did not have to depend on shipped drives these days. Oh well, I'll add the new one to my collection of HDDs. I copy the app and supporting files to my System drive and the Audiophile Real Tracks and Drums to an external SSD. With audio, there is very little speed difference but my microphones pick up the sound of the HDD and I hate that. I keep the HDD in a semi-pristine state only adding the Style and Bonus PAKs that I've acquired plus BIAB updates as they are released. I've never needed to restore anything from this drive—but it's there if I ever need it.
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I have the regular version. A friend of mine here has the audiophile version. Just for grins and to compare the quality, I sent him the sgu file and asked him to render it to a WAV using his version.
I then put my regular version, rendered to WAV and his audiophile version, rendered to WAV into the same project. Each one in it's own track and synced so I could A/B them flawlessly.
Maybe it's because my ears aren't as sharp as they used to be but I couldn't really tell the difference between them.
I think the reduced quality is from the change of key from the original sample and the tempo change. Both of those changes will cause artifacts and degradation of the quality. In spite of that BB really handles it well.
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Former user SolidRock posted this spectrum analyzer graph of the differences between the compressed (WMA) and audiophile (WAV) versions. It tends to show that the higher frequencies are attenuated in the compressed version: https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=273418#Post273418
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Significantly, no.
Marginally, perhaps. On high quality audio equipment.
By most people, on most audio systems, in most listening environments, no difference at all.
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That could be correct. All I know is, the difference is important to me. It’s all dependent upon your hearing, equipment, and expected use.
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I started off with the non-audiophile version, and then later on upgraded to the audiophile version, I personally would not change back.
In my view there is a perceivable quality difference. It all depends on what you want to ultimately achieve in sound quality, and to what you are listening on.
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That could be correct. All I know is, the difference is important to me. It’s all dependent upon your hearing, equipment, and expected use. Yep I started off with the non-audiophile version, and then later on upgraded to the audiophile version, I personally would not change back.
In my view there is a perceivable quality difference. It all depends on what you want to ultimately achieve in sound quality, and to what you are listening on. Something missing in all of this is that, for some of us, BIAB is just the beginning of a project. When additional processing and mastering are involved (all of my projects), it makes a huge difference between starting with Audiophile and compressed tracks.
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At a gig, through a PA, it just doesn’t make a difference.
In the basement of the science building,
Maybe it does.
Significant, I think not.
Ever.
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I started off with the non-audiophile version, and then later on upgraded to the audiophile version, I personally would not change back.
In my view there is a perceivable quality difference. It all depends on what you want to ultimately achieve in sound quality, and to what you are listening on. This is also my story. I can hear a slight difference. This difference becomes more noticeable to me when there are more non-audiophile tracks in the mix.
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I don’t recall that anyone called it a ‘huge’ difference. The question was, is the difference ‘significant’ and I believe that answer is Yes.
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I don’t recall that anyone called it a ‘huge’ difference. The question was, is the difference ‘significant’ and I believe that answer is Yes. +1
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