|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 851
Expert
|
OP
Expert
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 851 |
AT THE FIRST HELLO
https://www.reverbnation.com/kaynemusic/song/34725212-at-the-first-helloI wanted to try to write a modern pop dance song for Dua Lipa. Let me know if I hit the mark. Vocals; Synth V, I am playing bass, synths, keys, some guitar. Used Real tracks below. I used to think / I would spend my life alone Never finding the one / that I can call my Own I used to think / true love's a fairy tale Just bedtime stories / they tell to little girls I know that you are no Prince Charming and I am not Lady Guinevere But I get a certain Feeling / Whenever you are near At the first hello / you (I) didn't even know the clues were all around a scent a glance a sound Even in my heart / Even in my soul Right from the start at the first hello I didn't know / that I would ever find the kind of love that poets / write about in rhyme I thought that I / would spend each lonely night Dreaming of a hero / the strong and silent type I know you're not a Superman and I'm not Lois Lane But when I look into your deep blue eyes I will never feel the same I used to look at the covers of magazines At all the Perfect people smiling back at me I used to wish that Life was a fairy tale Never taking chances / too afraid to fail I know I’ll never be a fashion model And you’re not a movie star Love me as I am and exactly who you are ****** Song Summary ************* Title: At Hello File:autoload_5.sgu Key=C , Tempo 110, Length (m:s)=5:22 20 bar intro, 126 bar chorus, from bar 21 to bar 146. Repeat x1 chorus Melody has 6036 notes, Melody harmony is < no harmony >(0) Soloist track has 513 notes, Soloist harmony is < no harmony >(0) Song is saved with Volume, Pan, Reverb, Chorus, Bank0, Song is saved with bar changes for Volume Changes, Style is _FNKDNC2.STY (Funk Dance w/ Octave Bass) RealTracks in style: 1941:Synth, Rhythm, EuroDance ChorusHousePiano Ev16 120 RealTracks in style: ~1435:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm JazzFunkGroovinChords Ev16 110 Loop in Song: House-Techno-Trance\Trance - kit3beat135b ev16 tempo.wav RealTracks in song: 1406:Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm Soul70sSteady Ev16 100 RealTracks in song: 1943:Synth, Rhythm, EuroDance Strings Ev 120 RealTracks in song: ~2268:Synth, BellPad, Rhythm 80sPopPads Ev 120 RealDrums in Song:ModernDancePop^01-a:Bass, HiHat , b:Claps, Bass *******************
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,708
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,708 |
Elliott, very professionally arranged and produced tune. The vocals sound quite nice. The sound is very silky and rhythmic, which is cool.
Know "Dua Lipa" only because her name shows up in crossword puzzles. But I have to think she'd like this. Know I do.
DC Ron
BiaB Audiophile
Presonus Studio One
StudioCat DAW dual screen
Presonus Faderport 16
Too many guitars (is that a thing?)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Feb 2022
Posts: 1,031
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Feb 2022
Posts: 1,031 |
Hey there Elliott. Nice song and good writing. I'm always impressed by your versatility. You do so many different genres so well. From a production standpoint on this one, I'm not much help because I'm not nearly as well versed in this genre. There seemed to be a couple of rather abrupt clips or clicks in the intro, and there was a lot of thumping air in the drums, but that may be the effect you were trying for. Take it with a pound of salt, I may be completely off base. Good connecting song.
Brad
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 3,344
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 3,344 |
I'm not familiar with her music. I guess I'm too old. But this is a catchy song and seems like it should be in a movie soundtrack. Production sounds clean and well mixed.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,277
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,277 |
Elliott, I have no idea who Dua Lipa is or how she sounds.
But I know a great song when I hear it and this is a great song.
Outstanding arrangement.
Super vocal synths
Outstanding mix.
I got banned from Weight Watchers for dropping a bag of M&Ms on the floor.
It was the best game of Hungry Hippos I've ever seen!
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 8,382
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 8,382 |
Elliott,
I've heard only one song by Dua Lipa, so I'm not all that familiar with her musical bent. Regardless, this is a great song.
You really know how to bring out the best of those synth voices - excellent work!
The entire production is pro. Tip of the hat for a job very well done. I really enjoyed my listen.
Best to you,
Alan
BIAB 2024 Ultra Plus-all StylePaks*Win11*32GB DDR5*Rhyzen 9745x*AT 2035 Mic*Peavey Nashville 112 Amp*Ibanez ART120* Acoustic/Electric/Washburn D200S Acoustic*Stromberg Monterey Jazz Guitar Loops: https://aldavidmusic.wixsite.com/bestmusicloops
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 8,341
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 8,341 |
Hey Elliott,
This is really great. Like this one a lot!
Great song and production. I am listening to this on my phone and that may be the reason but it feels like that repetitive clap percussion (or hit, whatever it is) is kinda crisp, if you know what I mean. The mix is so awesome otherwise I found this a little distracting, but otherwise a fine, fine job.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Mar 2022
Posts: 820
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Mar 2022
Posts: 820 |
This is not an easy exercise to do. It is very well done but I will agree with David, the emphasis on time, you know what I mean!
But I am getting old and this is just my opinion and does not detract from the quality of the work.
Laurent
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 4,454
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 4,454 |
Ah, I should let my granddaughter answer your question about your marksmanship and Dua Lipa. But there is no question this is a great song. I also don't dance much cuz I'm usually playing in the band. hehe One thing that seems common in dance songs is the constant 4-beats per measure quarter-notes on the kick, and you did a great job with that, especially adding some cool and dynamic breaks. Good production and a fun song. It must be a good dance song because I felt like grabbing my bass and jhoping on stage.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 2,388
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 2,388 |
Dua Lipa isn't exactly what floats my boat, but here are a few simple things you can change: - Get rid of the 80s snare sound in the verses. Most modern snare-sounds are short, not too bright and often overlaid with handclaps. Your choruses sound much more modern than the verses
- Modern productions use a lot of vocal layering to make the sound smooth yet cutting through. Unfortunately, often with auto-tune where an EQ on one of the layers would have done the job.
Overall, I think you did a good job, it sounds modern and is absolutely danceable. Enjoyed my listen ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/images/icons/default/thumbs_up.gif)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,644
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,644 |
Elliot
I'll let others critique the modern dance side - but overall it's a nice song. Excellent work with Synth V.
Well done.
Peter
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 7,624
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 7,624 |
Hi, Elliot. I won't even pretend I'm up on knowing what modern music sounds like, so I have no clue if you hit your target. But it's a nice dance track, with a bright, up front mix. Sounds good, I like it!  But... the lyric and I am not Lady Guinevere is an interesting choice, since she's known for her infidelity to Arthur and eventual banishment to a nunnery. 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 6,980
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 6,980 |
Your writing is always good. The synth vocal could probably be a Dua Lipa sort of thing as there's a generic quality about them both - in DL's world that's no doubt caused by the over processing. I agree with David about the Arthurian reference.
I look forward to hearing your voice again soon.
Cheers
rayc
"What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 15,423
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 15,423 |
The only difference we noted in this and the modern pop we've heard is that your lyric is hugely better written. We admire those who venture into multiple genres ... particularly those as disparate as some of yours! Your instrumental performances and the BiaB tracks sit nicely together and the mix really pops on the monitors. And the vocals sound really good with lots of humanizing nuances. Well done! J&B
Our albums and singles are on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, YouTube Music, Pandora and more. If interested search on Janice Merritt. Thanks! Our Videos are here on our website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 7,975
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 7,975 |
Cool song Elliot. These vocal synths are very good. Excellent lyric and backtrack. Cool groove. Well done
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.
Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)
And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.
You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
The 2025 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2025 49-PAK!
Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac!
With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 29 new RealTracks and 45+ new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
- Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
- Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
- Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
- Playable RealTracks Set 4
- RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
- SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
- 128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
- Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
- Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
- RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®!
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins
Join the conversation on our forum.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums58
Topics84,397
Posts778,658
Members39,648
| |
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean