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Hi all

new version, new luck?
Oops, I bought it again and - with the impulse of the moment and holiday season ahead, I tried to find a workflow for my real world tasks. The task at hand was scanning through a bunch of Biab files to prepare for a repertoire, separating the songs that I like and than muting the melody track of the song and render it as MP - that I can be the soloist while band in a box is delivering the backing tracks.

With that line of though in mind, I created a folder, put songs of various types in it and made it the root folder to run quick through those using the song picker. With each song file I did the folowing:
- identify the melody containing track
- mute the melody containing track
- save the file again (Ctrl-S)
- double-click the next song in the song picker to repeat all steps

While this was working great so far - I ran through some 30 songs in a short time with this workflow, I though of another feature to listen to the chosen songs with the Jukebox function of Biab. I made my newly created folder with those 30 songs to the jukebox folder and activated the "play 16 bars only" flag - which should be enough to verify all sounds good (as my previous step was just choosing files, not really listening.
While jukebox was playing the songs one after another, some made strange sounds on the drum track, which made me stop the jukebox to pick a realdrum via the RealDrum Picker. In order to go only through potentially relevant readdrum styles I filtered as shown in the screenshot, but saw more realdrums than the filter would suggest are relevant. I only filtered "Jazz" "even" and a tempo.

What am I doing wrong? I also pressed the "update" button to activate the filter (if that was necessary) to no avail.

So new version and I struggle again with what seems to me basic functionality that should work very intuitively in a software.

I guess I am the weak spot - please help....

Cheers Stefan

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Hi Stefan.

Firstly, I'm very impressed with the clarity of your explanation! Thank you for taking the time smile

Even though you have ended up with 90 items, it's useful to remember that BIAB has over 800 items to sort through before filtering. To get down to 90 is pretty remarkable. I suspect that part of the problem is that jazz crosses over into a number of genres these days.

What I would do when you get to this list, is to use the column sort to group specific items together. For example, by clicking on the header row of the "Genre," this will group the tracks into jazz, latin, etc. You could also go through the present list and make particular drum styles as favourites.

Lastly, I've just found that if I use the "Filter by sub-genre" option and type in jazz the list is reduced to about half.

I hope these ideas help.
--Noel


★ my latest song: How Do I Love Thee? (vocals by Synth V’s vocaloid, Natalie)

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Hi Noel,

yes, I have fumbled around a little bit and also figuered this sub genre extention out. Yes, it narrows down the results. And filter columns additionally is also helping.
Thanks.

My description was long, as I wanted to show my intentions and where I am comming from.

With my workflow for running through the various titles using the Jukebox functionality I also found also some inconveniences here that could be an easy fix.
Though having all files to audition in one folder seem helpful, I would now revert back using the common song picker set to the relevant directory.

I had it the jukebox on "16 bars only" mode to audition the songs before rendering. Some were good enough for my purposes, some had rotten drums. In order to change the drums with realdrums I needed more time the 16 bars gave me so I stopped the jukebox playing (either with the common stop button in the play section or by pressing on the Jukebox icon again). This resulted, that I could not continue from the jukebox position I aldready had been before (let´s say song 11). Only possibility was start all over again an skipping the 11 songs to continue with the rest of the songs.
IMHO this is very suboptimal. The jukebox should be able to put on hold and continue where it was stopped. Why not make the jukebox restartable from previous songposition. I had hoped, that at least skipping to the next jukebox title would start the next title from which I could have skipped back to get to my last song - but that did not work. Always starting from the beginning is unecessary inconvenience IMHO. Also my wife calls me for dinner and I need to have a way to pause, do I not?

What do you think?

Cheers Stefan

PS: Amazing vocals in your song. I would have guess it could discern a synth voice from a real one - but didn´t. Great piece of work. Did you doctor around with phrasing of specific words a lot?


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