[quote=Rustyspoon# I agree on the chord "cells". But it's a much bigger discussion. If I remember correctly, there are couple of existing logical issues. For example if let say you want a 1 beat bar in 4/4 setting. Even you are editing a specific bar, all following bars after the edited become single beat bars. There were couple of other issues that I can't remember now. As far as Micro Chords... it was a strange concept, as they play over existing main chords like a layer. Which could produce interesting musical bits. What I am saying, they don't actually play 1/16ths parts as one would imagine. [/quote]
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Yes, very good. I guess basic "visibility issues" eg "font size" are included somewhere. This to avoid some of todays issues with very tiny almost non readable fonts in some places.
edit: and "Theme" some users can't see when in dark grey theme/background they need the option to switch to a light theme (even as it seems that GUI designers thinks that dark is the optimal but it is NOT. I never buy an app that can't be configured into a light theme)
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Added Global Font size, fixed typos. A lot of good ideas to improve user experience. This is why most companies do somethings to improve UX in every update. We will see if PGM has any questions.
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1) Default tool should be a pen tool, not a "selection" tool.
2)There are no UI buttons for selecting one or the other. Holding a current two button shortcut (Ctrl+Shift) to draw is just wrong. You should not hold anything to draw.
3)Full length overlay guides, horizontal and vertical running all the way from piano roll to the note when drawing. Current little green arrows do not cut it.
4)Full cursor on playback
5) A choice of free hand drawing note length. Not just preselecting duration.
6) Adopt a "freehand" move tool, not a separate up down and right. Holding mouse button should grab a note or selection and user should be able to move/drag it anywhere until you let go of the mouse button.
7)Better graphics for Pen / Delete tools. Currently they are too large and blurry.
8)User defined note color. (maybe this is possible already)
9)On the upper right, Help and Video buttons are covering other stuff. Should be fixed.
Wow - Thank you all for the great ideas. There is an incredible amount of information, and a lot of effort put into mockups and diagrams - much appreciated!
There are many different topics being discussed here. To make it easier to drill down into some specific suggestions, we'll create new threads for a few topics and extract some suggestions from this thread as a start.
Andrew, thank you so much for your quick response. Separate threads will help tremendously!
Should there be one for the Mixer?
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Similar to my point about too many ideas in one thread, I want to repeat my suggestion about the bugs reporting spreadsheet. I think it should be a database.
Yes, I see the irony because I created the basic format of the spreadsheet when Trevor, Noel, John Ford, and I started working together. But almost immediately I realized what a design mistake I had made as soon as we had multiple comments on one topic. This is one reason why you had trouble incorporating the comments into the January 2024 spreadsheet you created.
A relational database system would create tables so that multiple comments can be linked to one reported bug. It would also be possible to create a menu of front-end options for SQL queries. For example: show me every comment by Noel
show me every item where PG Music said Cannot Reproduce AND Priority = 1
Show me every comment that has “radio button”
You can write SQL queries on the fly, or when new queries are needed, they could be added to the menu.
Note that I had such a system running 25 years ago and my knowledge of the tools is old. Perhaps a Chat GP tool could serve as a front end now.
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To make it easier to drill down into some specific suggestions, we'll create new threads for a few topics and extract some suggestions from this thread as a start.
All long threads left alone splinter. May I suggest if PGM wants to drill down on a specific area that they increase moderation and help steer the discussion to keep it specific. When you have made a design decision let them know general things, thanks the contributors and politely close the thread down. As a forum moderator for seven years, there is nothing wrong with this approach.
The #1 thing you can add to this forum (is an anonymous voting system), polls or like system.
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Presently there are two selections that cover multiple tracks, Show All & Show Active, Hide Inactive. Every other selection works with one track.
The issue: every time a selection is made the window closes. If a user desires to change multiple tracks the window must be opened for each desired change.
Suggested solution: Add an "Okay" or "Close" button to the window then let the window remain open until the user initiates window closure by selecting the button.
Jim, would you rather lobby for adjustments to current mixer, or shiny new vertical mixer? I guess no matter what we wish for, results will be different. I hope not too different from the most common sense items that had been discussed in these threads and through the years. Having said that, I do wish for PGM to come up with amazing HD vertical mixer. However if this is not considered, I will +1 on Jim's suggestion.
The current mixer, and / or a shiny new mixer, should never operate like this selector does.
I recall users making the suggestion several years ago that the dialog should not close every time the user selected a value.
It received user support. That feature wouldn't have been difficult to implement, but the request was lost, ignored or something. Anyway, ultimately, it simply didn't happen. So it is important that any new mixer operates differently than this.
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If a solution is applied to the current audio mixer or a new audio mixer; either way I will appreciate having the inconvenience of the current method of track selection addressed.
The Show/Hide mixer channels or also known as the "Big Eyeball" is a good UI topic as it is not the norm for music software and takes excessive clicks. As with most of these UI topics there is a strong overlap in the areas that PGM has broken out to discuss in more details. This topic is also covered in the Track View. https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=840393#Post840393 There the point is a) Only show populated tracks AND channels by default. b) Add tracks/channels as you need them. This is the norm optimum workflow used in the majority of music and video software.
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Why not do it simple as in some other software: Song Master Pro - just drop the audio and the time map is set. Studio One 7 Pro - just one click and the time map is set.
And only use the Biab ACW as an option if needed to fine adjust anything further.
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