No, not in Band-in-a-Box. A chorus and repeat are different. A chorus starts at the end of the Intro or, if there is no Intro, at bar 1. A chorus ends at the last bar prior to the ending bars. Repeats can be a selection of any number of bars within a chorus that are played back consecutively any number of times. Using repeats is one way to work around the 255 bar limit.
Great conversation. Nice to see how PGM is actively asking for input. If i put together a list, it would be very similar to JeffP. I have long supported a new mixer panel that is floatable and vertical. I would like to see one similar to RBs but focused on a master channel not a main output. The master channel should have mastering fx capability. and each track should have FX capability. I would love to see in the mixer FX channels that each track can be assigned to. with an adjustable send. this would help with grouping like drum stems and such.
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I think if PGM also provided some API's so that users could write scripts to provide some customization to BiaB, also adding 48k, 96k. And multi in/outs.
I would like to see PGM add a star rating on every style, much like a lot of companies do with patches. You highlight the star you want as a rating with clicking on the 5th star (that would be 1-5 stars) would be the highest rating. I would even go for adding one star that I could click on for a favorite.
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I would like to see PGM add a star rating on every style, much like a lot of companies do with patches. You highlight the star you want as a rating with clicking on the 5th star (that would be 1-5 stars) would be the highest rating. I would even go for adding one star that I could click on for a favorite.
I think it would be useful to also have the "star" feature on RealTracks and RealDrums as well (ie is rating the instruments) As well as having the option to have the "stars" from the Styles pass through to the RealTracks and RealDrum lists as well. as well as the other way around have the "stars" from the instruments pass through to the Styles list. (all with some indication to see were the stars originate from).
I think it would be useful to also have the "star" feature on RealTracks and RealDrums as well (ie is rating the instruments) As well as having the option to have the "stars" from the Styles pass through to the RealTracks and RealDrum lists as well. as well as the other way around have the "stars" from the instruments pass through to the Styles list. (all with some indication to see were the stars originate from).
Great idea! +1
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It would also be useful to create to discuss the new Star wish in comparison to BIAB's existing RT/RD/Style Favorite and Recently used features. BIAB's Favorites and Recently used feature seems more versatile and robust than the Star's proposed features and FAV/REC feature has existed for years so it is readily available for use today in BIAB versions dating back for years. BIAB's FAV/REC/Style feature works the same for all three elements and can be configured as ongoing from project to project or a new Favorite, Recent, or Style search per project. The instruments selected as Favorites are clearly marked and identifiable on the MultiPicker Main screen instrument list.
Also linked to the Favorites/Recent lists are the styles, RT's, RD's, Loops, MidiSuperTracks, Midi Tracks, Midi Soloist, and Midi Melodist
Hi Charlie, I haven't used the favorite feature so please bear with me as I ask a couple of questions. Is there a limit on how many one can add in favorites? Will the favorite selects stay selected for years?
In all due respect wouldn't it be easier to have a favorite column where one could just click on to add a star? That would work for me.
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Much better than lists (a slow, obsolete and inflexible method to classify items in a database) and still better / more flexible than a simple star column would be implementing a user-defined tag system, which is a modern and ultra flexible system to organize databases and would work, IMO, perfectly for BIAB.
If anyone's is not familiar on how tags work, please, take a look at, for example, how Obsidian (a modern and ultra fast note taking app and knowledge manager system) uses them:
The only limit I'm aware of any of the favorite menus is with Styles list. It is limited to 150 but it is also the only one with save and load features and is a powerful benefit to narrowing down Style searches. The instrument favorites don't reference a limit in their help file. Recently used instruments are inserted into the list automatically so if there's a limit, it's more than 1110 because what is currently display in my Recently used list. If there's a limit, I assume the oldest in the list is overwritten with the new recently used files once that limit is reached. I believe the instrument favorites do stay selected for years unless they are intentionally deleted and overwritten. I use the instruments favorites on a per project basis because they link to styles so it's easy to find similar styles that use the same instrument which is a valuable resource for making MultiStyles, which I also use a lot. I usually erase the existing favorites when I start a new project so the list is synced with the current project.
In the MultiPicker, currently clicking a track once selects it and clicking it twice either initiates playing the file demo or playing the instrument using the Chord Sheet. It may be easy to select a favorite by giving up one of the double click options but it seems logical to have play functions rather than mark a favorite. The current Favorites feature marks the track as a favorite and give access to five other functions including displaying a list of similar RealTracks and Styles that use the selected RealTrack. I prefer the more versatile and robust current Favorites over this wishlist request as it's described at the moment.
Much better than lists (a slow, obsolete and inflexible method to classify items in a database) and still better / more flexible than a simple star column would be implementing a user-defined tag system, which is a modern and ultra flexible system to organize databases and would work, IMO, perfectly for BIAB.
Is this the method Toontrack uses for their EZMixer 2 to categorize the various mixer settings and show them in a "Sky Map"? I find that type of presentation very good and efficient, at least for EZMix2, and wonder how BIAB Styles categorized into such a "Sky Map" would look like. But that is another subject.
I put this one here since it has to do with improving the content search.
As a support for the search I find the “graphs”/“music box cylinders” representation for the “rhythm/play pattern” that are used in the various EZ products (EZDrummer3,EZBass,EZKeys2) quite helpful. The images could be a bit larger but they are very useful as they are. They give an idea of the structure and complexity of the rhythm pattern, and quite useful when shown together for all items that matches the search criteria. It helps a lot narrowing down the search from a category filtered list
Maybe those ideas could be something for BIAB to add for the rhythm instruments RDs and RT-Bass (and other instruments playing the bass or rhythm).
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.
Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
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You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
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-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
Playable RealTracks Set 4
RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.
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FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
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Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins
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