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Yes, I use your work (very) often, and I take this opportunity to thank you, but this is a way of bypassing the plugin, even though we paid for it with everything else.
I don't think I have such a special configuration that the plugin only bugs with me. When fast generation arrived on the Reaper plugin, I only used that. Now Biab 25 is also almost as fast as the V6 plugin, so the plugin will probably be dropped.
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The plugin in Reaper has this exceptional feature that it does not take time to generate wavs, this is for me the main advantage. Saves space and saves time. But when it does not want to, it does not want to. I'm surprised it was released in this non-functional state, but I feel like I'm the only one having this problem, so I'll do without it until a fix is available.
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... but I feel like I'm the only one having this problem, so I'll do without it until a fix is available. Trust me, you are not alone! Don't ask me how I know. 
BIAB – 2026, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud.
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. . . so I'll do without it until a fix is available. So does anyone have a Plan B workaround for MoultiPass and Ray? If I did I would share.
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677BiaB 2025 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
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I don't know why they don't have just the Plugin Installer for download rather than the massive 500 MB package. Because the updated plugin always requires the updated version of BIAB, and because it would otherwise be a waste of server storage for the 0.2% of users who want an incomplete installer. . It's amusing how we're sweating over saving 100MB on the servers when we're pushing nearly 1TB of FLAC downloads this year. Talk about a factor of 10,000! 
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For me the absolute best feature I used of version 7 of the plugin (and in general BiaB 2025) is THIS
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We're getting off topic. If you want to discuss whether v6 or v7 is better or how much you love JUCE or anything else, start a new thread. This one is specific to the crashes that RayC is having. Indeed for me V7 (04 or 10) does not work correctly in generating instructions in Reaper. It takes a huge amount of time compared to versions 6.XX and above all the tracks are offset, they start too early (often on the and of the 3), and I can't correct it at all. This should also be a separate thread, but I'll address it anyway. In the "Send to Reaper" panel, is Use REAPER Instructions" checked? If this is unchecked, then the Generate Type settings under the Generate button will be used. Then in Studio One, the generation does not work either and the simplest is the generation of wav, so we lose all the interest of the Plugin instructions. Can you try the plugin standalone version? If that can't generate anything either, then you have an install issue or your folder locations are incorrect.
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I received an email that Moultipass replied, but that reply seems to have been deleted. It seems like his problem has been solved and was an installation issue. As for RayC he hasn't responded in nearly 2 weeks, but I'll leave this thread open in case he comes back.
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Yes, absolutely Simon, you put me on the right track with this story of bad installation, whereas my Biab has been in concrete for several years. After a clean and quick reinstallation, the plugin runs like a rocket. No more worries. You were right, hence a big thank you.
Actually, I removed Biab from my C: drive, so everything runs from my new Biab SSD. As a result, everything is grouped for the directories and it works perfectly, I'm not touching anything anymore
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After a clean and quick reinstallation, the plugin runs like a rocket. Good to hear! Actually, I removed Biab from my C: drive, so everything runs from my new Biab SSD. Honestly I always suggest running BB and the RealTracks/Drums from the same drive - it's simpler, and avoids future problems (Windows likes to change drive letters at times, for example).
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Actually, I removed Biab from my C: drive, so everything runs from my new Biab SSD. Honestly I always suggest running BB and the RealTracks/Drums from the same drive - it's simpler, and avoids future problems (Windows likes to change drive letters at times, for example). So, in your expert opinion, is installing the content libraries (RealTracks, RealDrums) in a separate drive a nice feature or an user error? As a feature, it worked in previous versions.
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Regarding Biab, I never had any problems with RTs and RDs on a separate drive.
In my case, the issue was with the Plugin, which seemed to be lost (it couldn't generate anything, in both Reaper and Studio One). I admit that I was also using 4 Symlinks for the main folders (Demos, Soloists, Songs and Lessons, and Styles), as I thought it would save time by launching everything from my C: drive.
Since I deleted everything and did a simple installation only on the 2025 SSD, the plugin is working fine. Is it related? Probably.
For everyone whose separate drive is working, don't change anything.
Simon rightly pointed out that working on external drives without explicitly assigning fixed letters could also cause a loss of bearings in Biab, particularly with Symlinks, but I had specifically assigned fixed letters to my drives.
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So, in your expert opinion, is installing the content libraries (RealTracks, RealDrums) in a separate drive a nice feature or an user error?
As a feature, it worked in previous versions. It is a nice feature, and it works as intended - however, as Moultipass found out it does not like working with symlinks, and like I mentioned Windows likes to change drive letter when it feels like it. I typically suggest running everything from one location for that reason, since something simple like plugging in two hard drives in a different order can be enough to change drive letters.
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We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
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Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
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