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Link: Just Be A Good Person Summary: A duet, like Romeo and Juliet, only louder. With an epic grand finale. Turn up the volume and enjoy the ride. Behind the scenes:Surprisingly, many people are concerned when they learn that I don't believe in any deity and try to convert me into a believer. My usual response (and the way I live, by the way) is: "You don't have to believe in God to be a good person". That's what this song is about. I am well aware that not everyone will like the lyrics, but you can't please everyone. The "Making of":- After a couple of quiet songs, I wanted to do something loud and heavy.
Or as Floyd called it for my song "At Home": Heavy Theatrical Rock - The vocals are a hybrid of SynthV, a locally installed and trained so-vits-SVC implementation,
Sonarworks SoundID VoiceAI plugin, Suno (thanks to tommyad for bringing this to my attention) and
RipX DAW and Melodyne to change the melody to what I wanted.
A tedious job (the SVC training took about 5 days 24/7 on my computer, and ended up not being used much),
but I like challenges and learned a lot. - The band is also a hybrid of BIAB, me and Suno, fused with the RipX DAW (a really VERY versatile and innovative app).
The timing irregularities were a PITA, but tempo tracks in Cubase solved this problem elegantly. - Lessons learned: AI may be good enough for your daily average song, but if you have your own lyrics
and a clear vision of where you want the song to go, the work you save at one end has to be reinvested elsewhere.
Doubly sometimes. 62 re-takes until it was the way I wanted.
There's (still) no shortcut.
But I've also accepted that for some things it's a great tool to have at your disposal.
Like BIAB.
Or Cubase.
Or an instrument you can actually play... - With a length of almost 5 minutes, this is my longest song so far.
No station will play it.
As always 
A big thank you to Marty for his lyrical and spiritual support. Feedback (the good, the bad and the ugly, I'm here to learn) is, as always, highly appreciated. Some technical information: Style: BROKEN.STY The band:Drums: Suno, me Bass: Suno, me Guitars: 4176, Suno, me Synths: 1265, me Vocals: See above You can find the lyrics in the next post.
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Title: Just Be A Good Person
(Intro)
What do you want?
I wanna help those in need
Well, do you believe in God?
No
(Verse)
You say I need faith to know what is right
But I've seen kindness in the godless and hate in the devout
You talk of love, yet speak in hate
Like a saint who rules by making me afraid
(Pre-Chorus)
You preach love but twist the knife
Sing of heaven while you curse my life
(Chorus)
I don’t need prayers to do what is right
I don’t need rules to show that I care
I don't need fear to help those in need
And I do it by choice, not by the words I read
Not by the words I read
(Verse)
You shout of sin, call my doubts a crime
You light your candles, recite your lines
But I’ve seen shadows dance in your glow
Yet you hide the cracks so they won’t show
(Pre-Chorus)
You preach love but twist the knife
Sing of heaven while you curse my life
(Chorus)
(I don’t need prayers)
I don’t need prayers to do what is right
I don’t need rules to show that I care
I don't need fear to help those in need
And I do it by choice, not by the words I read
Not by the words I read
(Bridge)
If your faith is built on fire and chains
Then let it burn, I'll walk away (walk away)
Goodness isn’t owned by those who kneel
And truth does not bow to a glorious name
And truth does not bow to your fame
(Chorus)
(I don’t need)
I don’t need prayers to do what is right
I don’t need rules to show that I care
I don't need fear to help those in need
And I do it by choice, not by the words I read
And I do it by choice
Not by the words I read
(Chorus)
I don’t need prayers to do what is right
I don’t need rules to show that I care
I don't need fear to help those in need
And I do it by choice, not by the words I read
Not by the words I was forced to read
(Bridge)
Too many wars you had to fight
To prove that's your God who is right
Why can't I live the way I do?
Without you
(Bridge)
Too many wars you had to fight
To prove that's your God who is right
Why can't I live the way I do?
Without you
(Chorus)
(I don't need prayers)
I don’t need rules to show that I care
(I don't need prayers)
I don't need fear to help those in need
And I do it by choice
Not by the word
Not by the words I was forced to read
(Outro)
I don't need salvation, I don't need faith
I don't need heaven to know my place
I know my place
Know my place
I found my place
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Nice work.
yes indeed. It's a lot of work in order to save a few minutes or hours here and there.
I'm still trying to do battle with blending AI and BB.
You nailed this one.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Well, this is a fabulous composition for sure. A HUGE sound and a very cool soundscape. The vocals are quite nice indeed, though the higher notes sound a bit strained (maybe as they should be?). Thanks for sharing your workflow and credits. I'd guess less than 10% BiaB content, maybe far less. Not a criticism, just seems BiaB is not the best tool if you have this type of tune/arrangement in your head and your trying to get it out. Definitely sounds like the hard work/long hours you put in paid off in a rockin' tune.
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Hi B.D.!
Lyrically, while I come from the 'other side of the fence', I can well understand your anger/frustration. We can have a tendency to be hypocritical and judgemental (I say this pointing my finger at myself as well), and sometimes forget the main directive of 'love one another' / love is the greatest thing. Because the concept of sin plays a prominent part in the beliefs of Christians, I can see how it can lead to judgemental tones (and sometimes not just 'tones'!) I learned a number of years ago when hearing Prof. John Lennox of a principle that applies to everyone and to many circumstances, irrespective of belief system - you can't impose *your* truth on anyone - it has to be accepted. Too many have tried to impose truth - to disasterous consequences. However, I'd like to think that you and I have a lot in common - the imperative to do well by our fellow humans. I agree there is no monopoly on this principle by any one group. I heard an athiest say once, that from their perspective, the awe of understanding the marvel that they exist here and now in this age, and recognising all that has occured leading up to this time, can instil a motivation to honour this and live a good life, and allowing that goodness to spill over to those that share this planet. In this age, we need to do much more as individuals to find the common ground than looking for the differences. This is a good example of lyrics that spring out of passion of the writer, and can also evoke a range of responses in the listener.
Musically, I thought this supported the content of the lyrics perfectly. The nature of the genre supports the message of frustration - at what you feel is being said by others, and trying to get your message across that there is no exclusivity on doing good. While I'm not a heavy metal listener (if this is what the genre is), you have used a number of devices which I need to consider in my own songwriting: the use of different textures; build up of layers esp. at the intro; a distinctive and catchy chorus; leaving air and gaps at times to allow greater impact of voice and other elements.
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Has an Evanescence vibe.
Good narrative and energy.
Well done.
Cheers
rayc
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B.D.,
This is an awesome song and production. An amazing tour de force of music & technology.
So well done!
Bob
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Nice work.
yes indeed. It's a lot of work in order to save a few minutes or hours here and there.
I'm still trying to do battle with blending AI and BB.
You nailed this one. Thanks, Herb, for listening and your comment. Stem separation is amazing, but it's hard work to make a single stem sound decent. The solution would be an AI that creates (downloadable) stems and assembles them into songs, but that is much more difficult to realize than it sounds And would unfortunately put most studio musicians out of work 
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I can’t imagine this level of production! So impressive!
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BDT, I think you are getting the hang of this. Great overall production. I have found several things about stem separation. First is that they are not created equal. When dealing with just the vocal stem, different separators sound very different in relation to artifacts. Also the amount of processing on the vocals is not readily apparent but if you deverb it and use a filter it becomes quite evident that you can start dry and sculpt it somewhat. You are correct in that it is actually more time consuming than most people would think. Great work on this one.
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Well, this is a fabulous composition for sure. A HUGE sound and a very cool soundscape. The vocals are quite nice indeed, though the higher notes sound a bit strained (maybe as they should be?). Thanks for sharing your workflow and credits. I'd guess less than 10% BiaB content, maybe far less. Not a criticism, just seems BiaB is not the best tool if you have this type of tune/arrangement in your head and your trying to get it out. Definitely sounds like the hard work/long hours you put in paid off in a rockin' tune. Thank you for your feedback and sharing your thoughts, Ron. Much appreciated. I think your estimate of 10% (give or take) for the content you actually hear is about right. But what you don't hear, and what makes BIAB so valuable to my approach to this song, is that I did the entire arrangement in BIAB. It's my planning tool. What style, what instruments and where, dynamic changes, how many bars my lyrics need in each section and so on. Of course you could do that in MS Excel  , but in BIAB you can test it by trying out different styles and tempos and a basic chord progression to get a feel for it. Many iterations (and unfortunately also many compromises) are necessary to achieve what you want. In the end,this song was a lot more work than any other I've written so far, so I won't be going down that road too often. But it also opens new doors where you can discover new things. And I'm a pretty curious person
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This is a "wow" song, from the get go. It's sounds contemporary, which is something I am unable to create. Anyway, darn, darn, darn good. What a production. My head is spinning.
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This is really fracking good song, B.D.! Absolutely on every level. I was only part way through the listen when I realised you must have put a heck of a lot of work into it and only later did I read your blurb about it. In this song and previous ones you have a magic knack - though it's through hard work as well as talent - of making AI vocals sound 100% real, when nearly everything else I hear sounds fake and instantly loses my interest. This song just sounds 100% professional, though you'll soon have stop using the "no fans" part of your YT blurb! Re the lyrics, I totally relate to and agree with them, though from a different perspective. In my early teens I began asking all of the 'big' questions - I wanted to know why there was life - and I was 19 when I first experienced the Divine--in-All and in the following 55 years- in which I've studied virtually all spiritual traditions, various psychological models and a lot more besides - I've had more profound spiritual experiences than all of the truly spiritual persons I've ever met put together. So I class myself as a lower case 'g' gnostic (a knower) and in 2007 when I first started using social media (the Yahoo 360° site and then Multiply and others before they all vanished - FB and others came years later - I created my own Way for me, Waoism, which I class as something not serious which I take seriously, and equally something very serious which I don't take seriously. It's what I call a "genuine and authorised Act of Controlled Folly"! In simple terms I define Waoism in my YT 'about', and a part of the Controlled Folly is that Waoism being my Way for me makes me equally the most evolved, mediocre and dumbest Waoist sage ever, as well as the best, most mediocre and dumbest student there is as there can never be another Waoist.  I have 5 Waoist videos on YT which are only ever seen by a very few FB contacts, but I wouldn't want to post then here with BiaB music as the wordage and the images are more important than the soundtrack, plus I wouldn't want to offend anyone. But risking that, my Waoist Adage #59: is "Believing is the booby prize." Though not believing is just believing the opposite, thus Adage #85 is "Knowing that you don't know keeps you on the path of knowledge." I'll quote a quote from Ibn 'Arabi, a 14th Century Sufi who eventually refereed to himself as a gnostic, which I left on one of Beth's recent posts: "My heart has become capable of every form: it is a pasture for gazelles and a convent for Christian monks, and a temple for idols and the pilgrim's Ka'aba and the tables of the Tora and the book of the Qur'an. / I follow the religion of Love: whatever way Love's camels take, that is my religion and faith."
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#13: Ask not for whom the flower blooms, it blooms for you.
#58: Bring consciousness to it.
#63: On the road to effortlessness, effort must be made.
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B.D.,
This is an incredible piece.
You must be a genius to be able to create a piece of such high standard.
And of course you're a hard worker.
The melody, lyrics, performance, and vocals are all top notch.
By the way, Japanese people generally do not believe in any particular religion.
We visit ancient shrines at New Year's, have Western church-style weddings, and funerals at Buddhist temples.
It's rare that anyone would say anything about the religion.
So these lyrics were quite stimulating for me.
Enjoyed my listen a lot.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Excellent composition, B.D.
Dynamic galore. Lyrics great.
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Hi B.D.!
Lyrically, while I come from the 'other side of the fence', I can well understand your anger/frustration. We can have a tendency to be hypocritical and judgemental (I say this pointing my finger at myself as well), and sometimes forget the main directive of 'love one another' / love is the greatest thing. Because the concept of sin plays a prominent part in the beliefs of Christians, I can see how it can lead to judgemental tones (and sometimes not just 'tones'!) I learned a number of years ago when hearing Prof. John Lennox of a principle that applies to everyone and to many circumstances, irrespective of belief system - you can't impose *your* truth on anyone - it has to be accepted. Too many have tried to impose truth - to disasterous consequences. However, I'd like to think that you and I have a lot in common - the imperative to do well by our fellow humans. I agree there is no monopoly on this principle by any one group. I heard an athiest say once, that from their perspective, the awe of understanding the marvel that they exist here and now in this age, and recognising all that has occured leading up to this time, can instil a motivation to honour this and live a good life, and allowing that goodness to spill over to those that share this planet. In this age, we need to do much more as individuals to find the common ground than looking for the differences. This is a good example of lyrics that spring out of passion of the writer, and can also evoke a range of responses in the listener. Wow, thanks for taking the time to write this really detailed comment, Andrew. Much appreciated ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/images/icons/default/thumbs_up.gif) I pretty much agree with your comment. And because I didn't mention it in my first post, it's not about Christianity in particular, but about believes in general. Musically, I thought this supported the content of the lyrics perfectly. The nature of the genre supports the message of frustration - at what you feel is being said by others, and trying to get your message across that there is no exclusivity on doing good. While I'm not a heavy metal listener (if this is what the genre is), you have used a number of devices which I need to consider in my own songwriting: the use of different textures; build up of layers esp. at the intro; a distinctive and catchy chorus; leaving air and gaps at times to allow greater impact of voice and other elements. I think (but am not an expert) the genre is somewhere between Nu-Metal and Hard Rock (I think “melodic Nu-Metal” would describe it quite well), and while it's not to everyone's taste, I'm happy you listened to it and wrote a comment!
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Has an Evanescence vibe.
Good narrative and energy.
Well done. I'll gladly take Evanescence, thank you Ray At the moment, this song resides right between Evanescence's “Bring Me to Life” and Linkin Park's “In the End” in my personal playlist, and it doesn't look TOO shabby there
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Hi B.D.,
Boy you sure put a lot of effort into this song!
Excellent song, lyrics, backing and mixing with lots of nice light and shade.
Excellent work.
Best Regards
Nigel
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B.D.
That was an amazing listen! Regardless of lyrical message, I try to listen from a neutral position. The technical achievements you've incorporated here are beyond my pay grade and knowledge. This is a song that's nearly impossible to not listen to all the way to the end. It's captivating and draws the listener in.
Your unending pursuit for the perfect sound you'd imagined is noteworthy. I'm in awe of what you've achieved here. Great song and great performance.
Impressive accomplishment! Loved it!
Alan
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Calling out the hypocrites leads us to self examination. That can be a good thing. Nice work.
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All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins
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