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David, In the intro I thought I heard a hurdy gurdy organ but I didn’t see it listed. On the first listen it sounded striking to hear the melody and lyrical weave, but after my 4th listen it grew on me and I see what you were going for. The end result is a set of really cool lyrics matched with an interesting chord structure and melodies. It is quite a complex and compelling listen and I can hear the amount of time spent on this. I liked it a lot, Tom
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David...how you did that amazes me...I've worked with Synth V quite a bit now and it would have taken me weeks to even get close to what you did here...very cool and congrats on staying with it...really interesting cool song...some of the harmonies got a little funky in places IMO...BUT it sounded like real people would sing...sometimes right on and sometimes oops! I wouldn't change a thing if I were you...the nuances make it believable...really complex and complicated...well done!
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Awesome piece David. You amaze me with the quality of your vocals. Loved the lyric and backtrack. Really well done..
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I really like what you've done with all the vocals. I found myself focused on them to hear all the intricacies you created. I hear some of the dissonance that you referred to, although it doesn't bother me much---maybe just one or two places. In some spots, I am reminded of the Association complex vocals.
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You've done a great job, David, and it sounds a bit like a musical comedy. I don't really find any dissonances in the harmonies. You're a little hard on yourself; that's certainly demanding, and it helps you progress. But in the end, it's a beautiful result. Laurent
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David, enjoyed this thoroughly on my second listen. Think my brain just had to catch up a bit to your SynthV gymnastics. This would make a sensational stage number. It just has that theater thing...
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Hi. Tom. David, In the intro I thought I heard a hurdy gurdy organ but I didn’t see it listed. No, that's the FX messing with your ears. Cool sound, though.  On the first listen it sounded striking to hear the melody and lyrical weave, but after my 4th listen it grew on me and I see what you were going for. Wow, that's persistence! Thanks! . I can't ask for more than that!
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Hi, Dan. David...how you did that amazes me...I've worked with Synth V quite a bit now and it would have taken me weeks to even get close to what you did here...very cool and congrats on staying with it...really interesting cool song...some of the harmonies got a little funky in places IMO...BUT it sounded like real people would sing...sometimes right on and sometimes oops! I wouldn't change a thing if I were you...the nuances make it believable...really complex and complicated...well done! Thanks for the honest review! I appreciate the feedback. 
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Hi, Scott. Awesome piece David. You amaze me with the quality of your vocals. Loved the lyric and backtrack. Really well done.. Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
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Hi, Scott. I really like what you've done with all the vocals. I found myself focused on them to hear all the intricacies you created. I hear some of the dissonance that you referred to, although it doesn't bother me much---maybe just one or two places. In some spots, I am reminded of the Association complex vocals. Thanks! It's probably one of the thicker harmonies I've done, and I certainly have a ways to go. But where it does work, I'm pretty happy with that. I have all the UJam guitars. I've used Amber once or twice. I've used Iron and Carbon the most. I think I've got them all (except for the cinematic guitar that's just coming out), but they're never my "go to" instruments. BiaB is always that. 
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Hi, Laurent. You've done a great job, David, and it sounds a bit like a musical comedy. The "stage musical" vibe was what I was going for, so I'm glad a bit of that came through. I don't really find any dissonances in the harmonies. You're a little hard on yourself; that's certainly demanding, and it helps you progress. But in the end, it's a beautiful result. Thanks, I appreciate your kind words. 
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Hi, Ron. David, enjoyed this thoroughly on my second listen. Think my brain just had to catch up a bit to your SynthV gymnastics. I'm glad you gave it a second spin! This would make a sensational stage number. It just has that theater thing... Yeah, that's what I was going for. Next time, I'll give it a bit more thought and go for a bit more call and response. Thanks for stopping to comment! 
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Hi David,
Nice intro! Vocals sound good, I like the way you bring in the BGVs. Very well written and produced as always!
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Thanks for posting this song. I also did hear some of the dissonance in the vocals that you referred to, and it bothers me less knowing you know it is there and can easily fix it if you want to refine this track. I just purchased Synth V2 and look forward to completing some songs. It seems so much easier to use than the Vocaloid I used in the past. It is also interesting to see you use some of the UJAM plugins which I also find work well.
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Hi David,
I dunno how I missed this one. I don't think your lyrics are so toothless...but I am a little confused by this piece which probably won't suprise you given your own comments. I like the music and I like (most of) the harmonies. But I actually think it's the music that is toothless with your lyrics. Does that make sense? I like both...just not sure if together. But FWIW, I think you have two potentials here...like Mario said, 'diamonds in the rough'.
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“the devil gets his due and he shows up right on cue but he looks a lot like you” Irrespective of your thoughts on the write  we like it and especially the above. We would need a diagram to keep up with what is going on 😊 (you are really good at big productions). Yes, sometimes there is a bit of dissonance in the harmonies which we assumed was intentional. BUT the juxtaposition of those sections and the pure, sweet harmony sections work well with the lyric. We were reminded of an organ Leslie effect on some of the voices. We also enjoyed the back story and tech info. The mix is standout with a fascinating sound stage on our monitors. Kudos! J&B
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Interesting folky pop song, ambitious in many ways, I'm just having difficulties to express what I think of it  I can relate to "work you into a corner.", tearing it down is not an option when you have already worked on something quite long... unless you have lots of time... Lovely chord progression and together with the harmonies create a mysterious world, maybe dissonance just adds an extra spice, the way of the world. Somehow the verse parts sound musically more interesting, but the chorus is lyrically stronger. And the arrangement is especially enjoyable in those rare instrumental parts. Anyway, nice to hear you stretching your creativity and I appreciate the work you have done again with the vocals. Janne
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Hi David,
I'm glad you joined us with a new song. At first: the vocals of the lead singer are very good. I can understand that some, like Ron, said you got them from the intro. You got me there too. The vocal stayed nice together and I didn't hear (real) difficulties between both vocals. Also the lyrics are very good, but that never was a problem for you. But somewhere halfway through the song seems to lose its flow and it becomes difficult to continue. Maybe a transposition can help you out there? Or maybe you're thinking, "What the heck are you talking about"
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