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Not a RB fanboy but found this one interesting... Beato update on AI
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Yep. It'll toss out some good stuff every now and then
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Yep. It'll toss out some good stuff every now and then I think you're on the money, Herb. The occasional one comes along. And these are early days... Who knows?
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The short answer: No! The long-winded, detailed answer that nobody cares about: No! Reasons: - Someone who can write good lyrics will always be in demand, if only because he/she can contribute his/her own new(!) life experiences.
Each AI can only bring to the table what was available when it was trained.
Not always good yet, but it will get better with time - I have written songs with tears in my eyes, and some of the listeners to these songs have also cried.
So far no one has ever seen an AI cry, at least not in public.
But that doesn't mean that the AI can't create emotional songs if fed with good lyrics, see above. - I tested Suno extensively, if only because I've studied at an AI faculty and wanted to know what the state of play was.
Even if nobody wants to hear it: telling Suno what to do is an art in itself.
Just compare Rick's song with that dream-pop song (“These Hollow Hours”) he played later - the two are worlds apart.
Of course, if you publish your prompt, others will just copy it, create a decent song (if the lyrics are good, see first point) and call it a day.
You have given away your uniqueness for free.
That is up to you.
But this second song really WAS good!
What WILL sooner or later be irrelevant are studio musicians, the studios themselves and the entire chain from the recording of an instrument to the mastering of the song. We are a community of musicians here. Ask yourself: how many of you are multi-instrumentalists who can produce a song of this quality? (BIAB is very helpful here) How many of you can mix at this quality? How many of you can master at this quality? Don't get me wrong, most AI songs have terrible artifacts, but in a year or three, even I would have a hard time telling them apart. Am I happy about that? Definitely not, especially because many professional musicians (those who don't tour) will find it difficult to make ends meet. It breaks my heart. But it is what it is, and ignoring it or just moaning about it won't change anything. It's like electric (cough cough) guitars, drum machines, synthesizers and Autotune™. Live with it and try to make something good out of it, because it won't go away. (probably my longest post ever. If you've read this far: I love you all  )
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This quote from the comments section on the Beato video says it all:
"Let's be honest: the people who will settle for AI music were never the people you were writing music for in the first place."
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Check out this bot that I put together today. Interested in feedback. https://partyrock.aws/u/nstewart111/FnJrmjuBZ/HitMaker-Pro
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The link just took me to a sign-in page that stated: "Welcome to your AI Pop Song Production Assistant!"
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Oh. I'll need to figure out how to share it. Sorry.
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I am wondering if, in the future, human artists will rise up and demand that all AI music be labelled as such? Probably more likely in Europe, Commonwealth nations etc where a higher level of government regulation is accepted, but maybe not in the US? If this were to be the case, how could anyone tell if it wasn't labelled accordingly, especially if the tech develops to a point where those weird phasing noises etc are not present. And where do we draw the line? Does a piece of music/a song need to have at least X% human input to be considered not AI? Is BIAB realtracks a form of AI? Maybe the difference is musically we need to input key sig, time sig, tempo and chords, melody, harmony and lyrics, but does this alone constitute human creativity? Is the BIAB Soloist AI? Regarding lyrics, it would be a long straw to suggest that AI could not produce lyrics that sounded drenched in authentic human experience - I know someone reading my lyrics would suggest I have led a shallow life and they must have been written by an algorithm. But could AI sing as naturally flawed as I can?  To use examples from my neck of the woods, would AI ever produce music as uniquely sounding as Cold Chisel, INXS, Midnight Oil, Crowded House or Goldenhorse? Okay - it could copy it, but would it think it up originally? If AI wrote a song, but a group of humans performed it, is that good? I think it is?! Too many questions and not enough answers. I'm feeling depressed. Andrew D
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If AI wrote a song, but a group of humans performed it, is that good? I think it is?!
Andrew D My next song will perhaps answer your question. Look for it next week on the showcase. The song in question started life as an AI creation. I edited the lyrics fairly significantly and then reworked the music completely 100%. I'm recording the piano track now and it's the only track in the project that isn't BB RT's. I'll disclose all this info in the post about the song.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Last edited by lambada; 05/12/25 07:28 AM.
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This is the stems with AI voices (SoundIDVoiceID) added to mine. My harmonies sent SoundIDVoiceID completely nuts, but on my solo voice they seem pretty good. There are 2 girls voices although one is a bit louder than the other in hindsight. Next step would be to create harmonies with them in Melodyne. There's no processing on them except a bit of panning and volume adjustment in Reaper. They put the VoiceLive3 harmonies to shame. https://soundcloud.com/salsatomebaby/ai-stand-by-me-project-test
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