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Hello, I went to YouTube to watch one of your videos and saw this post: "Still not a native M program yet (or Universal)......whats up with that?? Seems that should be a priority as Apple isn't selling Intel macs anymore......and next years OS release is not going to run on Intel macs. So 2026 Band in a Box perhaps??"
Just checking to see if this is true---2025 for Mac is a non-native app? If this is true, how big of a deal is it?
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BIAB 2025 is an Intel app and requires Rosetta II on Apple Silicon. next years OS release is not going to run on Intel macs. That doesn't mean a thing. Apple has announced that Rosetta II will continue till 2027. This means that BIAB 2026 can still be released as an Intel app (I hope not but...). If Apple does not change this, BIAB 2027 will need to be AS Native. Apple has been known to punt before. 2012 (Mountain Lion) was supposed to drop support for 32bit, then 2015 (El Capitán) but that did not happen till Catalina in 2019. Seems that should be a priority... Who's priority? I do not work for PGM but I am an experienced hardware and software engineer who knew a couple guys named Steve when both worked for Atari. The following is my guess: Problem, based on years of reading these threads, is that PG Music appears to have a large installed base of Intel Macs. There is no "reverse Rosetta" that makes AS Native only apps backward compatible once Apple drops support compatibility in whatever a future OS requires. That's a lot of users who become abandoned because the hardware cannot keep up. I ran into this in 1995 when MacInTax year 1994 would not run on my Mac Plus. I still had to do my business taxes so running an older version could not be done. I was not happy, believe me. I had to buy a Performa 5200 till MacInTax wouldn't run on it, then a Beige G3, then... I may have had a different reason to buy my G5, that was 2002. Anyway... BIAB over Rosetta II is quite fast. I had my current M2 Studio Ultra for over a year before I sold my iMac Pro and was able to speed test BIAB 2022–23 on both platforms. I still test it on my n2012 MacBook Pros running Mojave and Catalina — just because I'm curious.
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While it is true that Native AS apps will not run on Intel machines, Universal apps contain both Intel and Native AS code and will therefore run on both Intel and Apple Silicon machines. It has been over four years since the Apple Silicon Macs were released and we are still stuck with Rosetta which was meant to be a short term bandaid. What will it take for PG Music to address this shortcoming? Are they really going to wait until Apple no longer supports Rosetta? Very disappointing.
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While it is true that Native AS apps will not run on Intel machines, Universal apps contain both Intel and Native AS code and will therefore run on both Intel and Apple Silicon machines. It has been over four years since the Apple Silicon Macs were released and we are still stuck with Rosetta which was meant to be a short term bandaid. What will it take for PG Music to address this shortcoming? Are they really going to wait until Apple no longer supports Rosetta? Very disappointing. Be disappointed, I suppose. You are assuming that, when Rosetta 2 is dropped, your Universal apps will still run on both platforms. Apple’s history does not support your assumption. How many apps ran both PPC and Intel after Rosetta was dropped?
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Hello delliott,
Just as Mike here stated, the use of Rosetta allows new Band-in-a-Box versions to run with as many MacOS versions as possible. Our latest updates are able to run on MacOS 10.11 and if we had gone for full silicon support, we would be leaving users with older Macs behind with no ability to utilize new content and features.
The use of Band-in-a-Box with Rosetta is still stable and very fast.
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I think its been about 5 years since AAPL made an intel based Mac. Yet users on this forum seem to revel in what crappy hardware they can run BIAB on.
Those of us willing to invest in quality hardware will just have to wait around for the last octogenarian on this site to upgrade his 2014 Mac Mini.
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Hello delliott,
Just as Mike here stated, the use of Rosetta allows new Band-in-a-Box versions to run with as many MacOS versions as possible. Our latest updates are able to run on MacOS 10.11 and if we had gone for full silicon support, we would be leaving users with older Macs behind with no ability to utilize new content and features.
The use of Band-in-a-Box with Rosetta is still stable and very fast. Sorry, but this is NOT true. You could have released BIAB fully apple silicon native for years by using universal binaries... regardless of Rosetta 2 or not. Since this didn't happen till 2025 does look to me that you still have porting issues here either on your code or on some third party dependency. I did not update to BIAB 2025 because of that.
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Hello delliott,
Just as Mike here stated, the use of Rosetta allows new Band-in-a-Box versions to run with as many MacOS versions as possible. Our latest updates are able to run on MacOS 10.11 and if we had gone for full silicon support, we would be leaving users with older Macs behind with no ability to utilize new content and features.
The use of Band-in-a-Box with Rosetta is still stable and very fast. Sorry, but this is NOT true. You could have released BIAB fully apple silicon native for years by using universal binaries... regardless of Rosetta 2 or not. Since this didn't happen till 2025 does look to me that you still have porting issues here either on your code or on some third party dependency. I did not update to BIAB 2025 because of that. Unfortunately, you don’t understand the macOS as well as you think. There are no “universal binaries” that let an app run over Intel and Apple Silicon without Rosetta 2. I have no trouble running BIAB 2025 Audiophile on my M2 Studio Ultra. Would I like to see it AS Native? Yes but I don’t expect it until the hardware compels it. The same thing happened in 2019 when 32 bit libraries no longer ran over current Apple hardware.
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I think its been about 5 years since AAPL made an intel based Mac. Yet users on this forum seem to revel in what crappy hardware they can run BIAB on.
Those of us willing to invest in quality hardware will just have to wait around for the last octogenarian on this site to upgrade his 2014 Mac Mini. Nope. We’re going to have to wait till Apple drops support for Rosetta 2. We’ve seen this before.
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Hello delliott,
Just as Mike here stated, the use of Rosetta allows new Band-in-a-Box versions to run with as many MacOS versions as possible. Our latest updates are able to run on MacOS 10.11 and if we had gone for full silicon support, we would be leaving users with older Macs behind with no ability to utilize new content and features.
The use of Band-in-a-Box with Rosetta is still stable and very fast. Sorry, but this is NOT true. You could have released BIAB fully apple silicon native for years by using universal binaries... regardless of Rosetta 2 or not. Since this didn't happen till 2025 does look to me that you still have porting issues here either on your code or on some third party dependency. I did not update to BIAB 2025 because of that. I second this. I wish PG would stop spinning and just acknowledge they simply didn't/dont have the resources or time to properly address the Apple native thing.
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Unfortunately, you don’t understand the macOS as well as you think. There are no “universal binaries” that let an app run over Intel and Apple Silicon without Rosetta 2. I'm really sorry Mike - I know you aim to be helpful but sometimes your actual ignorance of how these things work makes it so I ( and others maybe too ) I just have to respond - slightly frustratedly and correct you. Particularly when you seem to be acting as some PG representative - as if PG are incapable of speaking for themselves and defending the choices they have made - whether strategic wise or techicsally... whatever. So here goes: check all this out yourself Mike - wiki it if you like : Apple introduced the Universal 2 binary format to allow both x86_64 (Intel) and arm64 (Apple Silicon/M-series) code to be packaged into a single .app bundle. The macOS loader automatically selects the appropriate slice at runtime based on the underlying hardware. This approach is Apple's recommended method to support both architectures, ensuring users interact with only one app file without needing to consider their device's CPU type. A Universal 2 binary contains executable slices for both Intel and Apple Silicon Macs, making it a "fat binary". The OS loader transparently chooses the correct architecture to run, so the end-user only sees a single .app. Apple encourages developers to use Universal 2 as the standard for distributing apps compatible with both current Intel Macs and new Apple Silicon Macs. Distributing a Universal 2 .app ensures seamless user experience regardless of Mac architecture. Now it's up to each company to decide and apply the necessary developer resources to write their code so they can build BOTH an intel and a Apple Silicon/M-series Native app and embed them in a Universal 2 binary. And while there is no reason why the Intel and Apple Silicon/M-series binaries of the bundled apps *have* to have *exactly* the same feature sets - it's clearly very helpful if they do. A case in point of the former is actually Apples own Logic Pro - where the Intel version doesn't support the new AI features in the latest version on Intel such as stem splitting which require AI neural net support not found in Intel macs. Logic Pro even has an option in which ( on an Apple Silicon Mac ) one can force Finder to launch the Intel version ( and thus automatically use Rosetta under the hood ) or the Apple Silicon/M-series version. Clearly on an Intel Mac only the Intel binary would be used. And this Intel version is of course that all Apple Silicon/M-series owners are forced for the time being to use.. under Rosetta. The reason why we Apple Silicon/M-series series users have to use an Intel app binary under Rosetta is simply because PG Music simply haven't got - or have chosen not to apply - sufficient developer resources to properly converting their codebase to support Apple Silicon/M-series compiled binaries. For sure PG Music doesn't maybe have the financial resources or developer manpower of - for example the main DAW developers- ALL of who - Cubase, Ableton, Bitwig, Studio One, Reaper, Digital Performer, Studio One - now have Universal2 binary support or if not using a universal binary simply release two different versions of their app - one Intel the other Apple Silicon Native. NONE need for an M series Mac owner to use Rosetta to run their DAW. We dont need excuses or spin here. We all love BIAB and Want PG music to succeed - BIAB being a unique product in a narrow market product category. And personally I can understand and be patient when companies are doing their best and thus things like M series support might just take time ( as for future ARA2 support ). I just want PG reps or even the Gannons - to come out clean and simply state - where some feature or aspect XYZ - something typically found in most mainstream audio apps - simply isn't "there yet" - state ............... admit to us that its simply because they haven't had or have - for now *chosen NOT to* focus their dev resources on delivering *that* particular feature..... "for now". I can live with that. Understand that. At least temporarily...  .... because we all know - that eventually PG **WILL** do this. And when it happens their marketing team will for sure then extol - in the product release blurb - the benefits of extra (if not stunning) performance gains etc due to running Mx Native... Plus the marketing blurb will also say "hey look! now you no longer have to use Rosetta!". but what I just can't stand is when PG reps are simply spinning - in effect pulling the wool over one's eyes as to why things aren't so and so. And when some third party so and so - helps this - meaning well - acting as some kind of no-asked for PG-apologist - its really annoying Oh and by the way I'm a retired developer who in the last 20 years have been coding solely for MacOS using Xcode.
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but what I just can't stand is when PG reps are simply spinning - And what I have a hard time with is that you really don’t know what you are talking about. I’ve been consulting to Apple since 1987 and was at the Cupertino mothership just last week working on… oops, that’s covered by an NDA..
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........... Our latest updates are able to run on MacOS 10.11 and if we had gone for full silicon support, we would be leaving users with older Macs behind with no ability to utilize new content and features....... There are plenty of developers for MacOS who have a user base still on older Intel machines - but hey guess what - I dont see many of the names one would recognise in the pro audio sphere that still only produce an intel binary. What you say could have been said by any of the DAW makers and plenty of other pro audio companies too. Who also have users with older intel machines. But they don't Guess what... they produce two versions of their app - not necessarily even bundled into a Universal Binary - one for Intel - for older versions of MacOS if necessary as well as a seperate one for Apple Silicon. Your reasons for not having come out with an ARM native version is simply because you havent had the Dev resources to do so.
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but what I just can't stand is when PG reps are simply spinning - And what I have a hard time with is that you really don’t know what you are talking about. I’ve been consulting to Apple since 1987 and was at the Cupertino mothership just last week working on… oops, that’s covered by an NDA.. You said: "There are no “universal binaries” that let an app run over Intel and Apple Silicon without Rosetta 2." This is at best just plain confusing and badly worded or - taken as written simply false and I don't care how long you've interacted with Apple for or your name-drops. If you're making erroneous, confusing or misleading statements thats what you're doing. And it isn't the first time. A certain official appointed by a President is making all manner of false, mistaken and confused claims regarding medicine these days. He too can claim some very famous name-drops and familial connections. And yet he still spouts BS, misleads and confuses people. Here is the reality. See the first line...... App Bundle Types =============== Universal Binary: Runs natively on Intel and Apple Silicon. One app bundle. NO ROSETTA REQUIRED Intel-only app Binary: Runs ONLY on Intel Macs or - using Rosetta - on Apple Silicon Macs. Apple Silicon Only: Runs ONLY on Apple Silicon Macs. Rosetta not required or applicable.
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I will not quote your disgusting remarks but I hope that your post is deleted.
Everything is easy for those who aren’t doing it, right?
Apparently, there is a large installed base that will be abandoned when the inevitable happens and PGM is forced to write a AS Native version. We all know when that has to happen. PGM has told us that they will put it off till then. Get over it—I have.
Except that BIAB doesn’t work as well with Native apps as I would like, it runs quite well over Rosetta 2.
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Apparently, there is a large installed base that will be abandoned when the inevitable happens and PGM is forced to write a AS Native version. We all know when that has to happen. PGM has told us that they will put it off till then. Part of the problem is exactly this. Macs are expensive, and a significant chunk of our user base is using older Macs for that reason - I regularly talk to users with Macs that are 10+ years old, and I personally still regularly use a 2012 Mini. If we were to compile BIAB to support AS Native, that would instantly stop many of our users from being able to upgrade, or force them to buy new computers. In fact this already happened to a limited extent in 2025 - the previous version supported Mac OS Snow Leopard from 2009, while 2025 only supports as far back as El Capitan from 2015.
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Was just about to pull the trigger on 2025 Audiophile (been a fan/customer for 20+ years.) I'll most certainly wait for an ARM-native version before dropping $500 on an upgrade, regardless of how "well" the Rosetta version runs. Frankly, the only other time I've ever seen companies drag their feet to this extent when it came to updating their code was when OS X was released. Over the years, when it comes to BIAB, I've conceded to living with the now quite antiquated Windows '95 UI and the clunky, multi-windowed, multi-styled, multi-sized, multi-colored, and multi-fonted workflow, simply because the product is so unique in a fairly crowded space. I've also accepted that at PG, Mac is second fiddle to Windows, and tends to be an afterthought, whether we're willing to admit it or not. That much is clear not only from the UI itself, but also by the inequity of the OS compatibility of the sellable software catalog. But avoiding "abandoning the user base with older machines" is the official reason that we're still rocking a Rosetta app? Really? There are companies with much larger footprints in the industry (both software-only and hardware/software models) who I'd think would need to worry about balancing backwards compatibility and 'abandoning' users of older machines vs. keeping up with the competition and staying on the cutting edge, feature-wise far more than PG Music needs to.
With no disrespect intended in any way, is the Mac user base of BIAB genuinely so heavily weighted towards users with older, generally unsupported machines that they unwaveringly take business decision precedence over the users with current hardware/software who are regularly willing to spend what it takes in order to keep their studios up-to-date (such that it actually affects development and compatibility with everything else that's out there?) Genuine question.
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I'm not mainly a Mac user so my comments might be taken as disruptive. That is definitely not my intention. I just continue to be amazed at how Apple keep manipulating their market opportunity by continually releasing O/S and hardware upgrades that make previous hardware / O/S so quickly redundant.
I can and do run the same software applications on at least the last 15-20 years of Intel hardware and Microsoft operating systems (not a plug, just a fact).
I continue to be amazed at the number of questions from users who find out that they need a computer / O/S upgrade to keep working. Apple magic? Yes.
(And don't jump on me, I use and develop software for Macs, iPhones and more, but by comparison, if you look closely, it's a carefully constructed and orchestrated minefield. Apple have mastered it.)
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I'm not mainly a Mac user so my comments might be taken as disruptive. That is definitely not my intention. I just continue to be amazed at how Apple keep manipulating their market opportunity by continually releasing O/S and hardware upgrades that make previous hardware / O/S so quickly redundant.
I can and do run the same software applications on at least the last 15-20 years of Intel hardware and Microsoft operating systems (not a plug, just a fact).
I continue to be amazed at the number of questions from users who find out that they need a computer / O/S upgrade to keep working. Apple magic? Yes.
(And don't jump on me, I use and develop software for Macs, iPhones and more, but by comparison, if you look closely, it's a carefully constructed and orchestrated minefield. Apple have mastered it.) When you post nonsense, someone should jump on you. Apple has made the decision to stay with the best performing tech—and it isn't being made by Intel anymore. We who buy it vote with our pocketbooks. Sometimes these changes were necessary—the PPC consortium could not build a fast enough chip that remained cool (the last G5s were liquid cooled heat pumps) and Intel could for the next 15 years and then they couldn't compete with ARM. You also ignores the fact that, unlike the macOS (even 8.01), Microsoft has released versions of Windows that can best be described as spectacular failures — and they might do it again. I think I know what's coming in Windows 12, and you're not going to like it Apple has never done that on the Mac. The Newton and a few other projects failed miserably but none were the macOS. Apple has only one obligation and that's to their shareholders (Dodge Brothers v. Chrysler). So does Microsoft. Both companies are doing quite well at the moment. I'm not one of those who couldn't be paid to use Windows. I can and have made a very good living over the years. I also showed my last employer how much better the macOS was for our jobs and why most of us were no longer using our company issued Win stations anymore. I gave away my last Windows machine during the pandemic. Now that I'm retired from all day jobs, you couldn't give me one.
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I'm not mainly a Mac user so my comments might be taken as disruptive. That is definitely not my intention. I just continue to be amazed at how Apple keep manipulating their market opportunity by continually releasing O/S and hardware upgrades that make previous hardware / O/S so quickly redundant.
I can and do run the same software applications on at least the last 15-20 years of Intel hardware and Microsoft operating systems (not a plug, just a fact).
I continue to be amazed at the number of questions from users who find out that they need a computer / O/S upgrade to keep working. Apple magic? Yes.
(And don't jump on me, I use and develop software for Macs, iPhones and more, but by comparison, if you look closely, it's a carefully constructed and orchestrated minefield. Apple have mastered it.) What's even more amazing is that AAPL continues to produce more and more (better and better) products that are willingly purchased by more and more people. Its some sort of conspiracy..... Must be something in the water. Nevermind
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Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows is here and it is packed with major new features! There’s a new modern look, a GUI redesign to all areas of the program including toolbars, windows, workflow and more. There’s a Multi-view layout for organizing multiple windows. A standout addition is the powerful AI-Notes feature, which uses AI neural-net technology to transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI—entire mixes or individual instruments—making it easy to study, view, and play parts from any song. And that’s just the beginning—there are over 60 new features in this exciting release.
Along with version 2026, we've released an incredible lineup of new content! There's 202 new RealTracks, brand-new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two new RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows and save up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special offer—available until December 31, 2025. Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page to explore all available upgrade options.
2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
Our Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK are loaded with amazing add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is included with most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows packages, but you can unlock even more—including 20 unreleased RealTracks—by upgrading to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49. Browse the full contents of each package and listen to demos here.
XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
The XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs special offers are now available until August 31st at 11:59pm PDT!
Ready to take your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 experience to the next level? Now’s the perfect time! Expand your style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs—packed with a wide variety of genres to inspire your next musical creation.
What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?
XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-9 includes 900 styles!
Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). With over 3,500 styles (and 35 MIDI styles) included in Xtra Styles PAKs 1-20, the possibilities are endless!
Get the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.
Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Get Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 19 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Don’t miss this chance to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box setup—at a great price!
Mac 2025 Special Upgrade Offers Extended Until August 15th!
It's not too late to upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® and save! We've extended our special until August 15, 2025!
We've added many major new features to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, including advanced AI tools like the amazing BB Stem Splitter and AI Lyrics Generator, as well as VST3 plugin support, and Equalize Temp. Plus, there’s a new one-stop MIDI Patches Picker with over 1,100 MIDI patches to choose from, all neatly categorized by GM numbers. The MultiPicker Library is enhanced with tabs for the SongPicker, MIDI Patch Picker, Chord Builder, AI Lyrics Generator, and Song Titles Browser, and the tabs are organized into logical groups. The Audiophile Edition is enhanced with FLAC files , which are 60% smaller than AIFF files while maintaining identical audio quality, and now ships on a fast 1TB SSD, and much more!
Check out all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® here:
Purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac during our special to save up to 50% off your upgrade purchase and receive a FREE BONUS PAK of amazing new Add-ons. These include the 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK, Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana, Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes, MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano, Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7, Playable RealTracks Set 4, RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark, and more!
Upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and add 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and 20 RealStyles, FLAC Files for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks, Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster, MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster, Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8, and RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe.
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs!
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