Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
#862116 09/09/25 10:44 PM
User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 323
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 323

https://soundcloud.com/lee-brown-75/think-it-through

"Think It Through" is my latest serious composition, following "Lights". I didn't consider "My Mate Jack" as a favourable representation, but more of a "fluff-piece" !!

This was intended to be a ballad, but I think it got away from me in the end, far too much electrification, instead of focusing on playing it acoustically. The subject matter also doesn't really lend well to a ballad, although having said that is "Happiness is a Warm Gun" a ballad? So lyrically, this is a very simplistic point of view about gun control. I've treated the subject with kid gloves really, as I know guns are seen as a right in some places. But the message is simple enough, in that they ruin lives, and more often than not it's the innocent who pay the ultimate price.

So, I did four vocal takes and selected the "optimum" track for the verse, doubled up vocals on the pre-chorus and four tracked the chorus. The doubling each time gave it extra weight and finally reached orgasm in the chorus. (can I say that?) The vocals are okay but I wouldn't say exceptional. Towards the end of the second chorus, you can make me out struggling for breath with some of the phrasing. The intro and outro lead guitar is myself and not BIAB, it worked okay, not Joe Satriani, but not bad for improv.

The Youtube video, I hate doing the videos too time consuming, is just illustrating that we all have options and it depends which door you decide to go through. I apologise for some of the odd subliminal images in the second half, I was just trying to visualise the darker side of the human psyche.

It's a wrap.... not a rap, hate rap!!!

BIAB Summary:
Style is _DRVBRTS.STY (Modern Groove Soloist, Brit Rock)
RealTracks in style: 1827:Bass, Electric, PopModernGrooveA-B Ev16 075
RealTracks in style: 1835:Guitar, Electric, Soloist PopModernGrooveGritty Ev16 075
RealTracks in style: 677:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm RockBritDriving Ev 085
RealTracks in style: 680:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm RockBritSoulful Ev 085
RealDrums in style:RockBritDrivingEv16^1-a:Snare, HiHat , b:Snare, Ride

Real Instruments:
Seagull Coastline acoustic guitar
Hils NEXT Headless HN5 electric guitar


Lyrics:
VERSE 1
Cradling my firearm, keeping safe from harm.
Holds at bay the darkness of the approaching storm.
A moment of tension, just one bad word.
It’s my voice of reason, waiting to be heard.
PRE-CHORUS
A shadow steps out in the night.
What’s it take to put the wrongs right.
CHORUS
So think it through, oooh, whatever’s hurting you.
The fog will clear by the morning.
Don’t look back or down the track.
There’s always someone behind you.
So think it through, oooh, what you’re gonna do, oooh.
Think it through, infamy is calling.
SOLO
VERSE 2
It’s funny how in an hour from now.
Not a single word will be spoken.
Wrong or right, I’m up for the fight
Don’t care what rules or lives broken.
PRE-CHORUS
The shadow lurking out of sight.
What wrongs will you settle tonight?
CHORUS
So think it through, oooh, whatever’s hurting you.
The fog will clear by the morning.
Don’t look back or down the track.
There’s always someone behind you.
So think it through, oooh, what you’re gonna do, oooh.
Think it through, infamy is calling.
Don’t look back y-yeah, don’t look back y-yeah,
Don’t look back behind you.
OUTRO

User Showcase
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 3,442
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 3,442
Nice tune! Nifty axe work and I like your vocals a lot. Nice floating backing track, and a great chorus. The vox doubling+ is very effective as a dynamic device as you've used it, though it might be driving the vocals a bit hot in the mix. Cool "serious piece".


DC Ron
BiaB Audiophile
Presonus Studio One
ASUS I9-12900K DAW, 32 GB RAM
Presonus Faderport 16
Too many guitars (is that a thing?)
User Showcase
Joined: Mar 2025
Posts: 977
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Mar 2025
Posts: 977
Hi Lee!
I LOVE that falsetto (throu -ou-ough) phrasing in the chorus - that’s the hook! I was waiting for it to return after hearing it the first time.
Andrew

User Showcase
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 2,856
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 2,856
A topic I agree with 100%, packaged in a beautiful song.
Good choice of instruments, and the sparse arrangement help convey the message.
In terms of production, the singer seems to be in a different room than the band.
Less reverb, and probably a different type, would help here.
No biggie, though smile

User Showcase
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,149
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,149
Hi, Lee.

Good write! I agree with B.D. that the vocal sounds like it's coming from a different room.

   It’s my voice of reason, waiting to be heard.

In the meantime, I see two shootings in today's headlines... sick


-- David Cuny

My virtual singer development blog
Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?

BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 8,728
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 8,728
Lee,

You make some great music... Exceptional production!

Bob

User Showcase
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,053
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,053
I liked this, especially the falsetto notes on the chorus. The doubling, for me, was distracting, and I suspect the vocal would sound much more "in the same room" as the instruments if you removed it. I have never had any luck using a doubling plugin. I keep hearing how great they are, but not for me. But overall, a good tune and a good message. Well done!


Windows 11, Intel Core I5 10400, 16 gig ram, Scarlett 2i2, Sony Acid Music Studio 10, BIAB 2020 UltraPlus Pak
DC Ron #862179 09/10/25 04:44 PM
User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 323
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 323
Thank you for your comments and listen DC Ron

I think you’re right that the Vox are a little hot, especially with the four tracks in the chorus. I was trying to make sure the vocals could be heard and even used a brightener to bring it up when I mumbled. But it’s a learning curve to find the best vocal balance in production and to get the best vocal take I can do. Thank you for your comment on the guitar playing, it’s the main aspect I’m self conscious of.

Kind regards

User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 323
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 323
Thank you Andrew,

Yeah it needed that hook otherwise there may not have been enough rise and fall in the Vox. Glad you liked it. I’m looking forward to your next song once you get that finger picking sorted….it’ll be a cracker!

Forum members, Andrew’s next song is a winner. ……. No pressure Andrew!!

User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 323
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 323
Thank you for your review BD

Yeah, I tried to brighten my vocals for clarity and I may have overcooked it. I didn’t deliberately put any extra reverb but I did push the Vox both in level and spatially.

Thank you for listening, appreciate it. Kind regards.

dcuny #862185 09/10/25 04:59 PM
User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 323
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 323
Thank you dcuny for the review

Yes the lunacy domestically and internationally continues. I’ll have to watch the effects I use on vocals and how they fit in the mix. It’s seems like this is a theme with the reviews. Not a problem, it’s all good feedback. That’s the only way we learn.

Kind regards

rsdean #862186 09/10/25 05:00 PM
User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 323
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 323
Thank you for listening Bob.

A very kind review, best regards.

User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 323
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 323
Thank you for your review Tunemonger,

I’m taking on board that the doubling is a distraction, it’s a constructive critique that is coming up repeatedly. All good, I need to know these sort of issues so I can address them in future songs.

Kind regards.

User Showcase
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 4,916
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 4,916
Cool, Lee. I had a chance to listen to this yesterday when I got notice from YT. Very cool video, too. I really like your Beatle-influenced sound and writing style. I especially like the sound of your acoustic guitar, although it may be a little too loud for the mix --but my ears are not the best reference. The electric seems to fit better in the mix.


Enjoy whatever happens!
marty

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@babumusic51
SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/marty-straub
Band in a Box, Reaper, Cakewalk, Ozone 12, EZDrummer
User Showcase
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 2,113
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 2,113
Great theme and chorus, but I agree with B.D." In terms of production, the singer seems to be in a different room than the band.". I have zero experience with mastering, but there must be some way to make the vocals sit in comfortably with the rhythm section.


Some favourite Waoist Adages:
#1: Play on the Way.
#13: Ask not for whom the flower blooms, it blooms for you.
#58: Bring consciousness to it.
#63: On the road to effortlessness, effort must be made.
#92: Be Love Now, the rest will come on its own.
User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,369
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,369
Hi Lee, this is a great song.
I agree with the others on the vocal.
Great lyrics.
Nice guitar chops.
A very good song.


I haven't lost all of my marbles but there is a small hole in the bag someplace!

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
User Showcase
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 7,200
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 7,200
I think YOUR guitar playing REALLY lifts the level in this thing.
I'd be inclined to gradually ramp up guitar aggression across the prechorus to a point a dB or so below the chorus so that it hits but as a slap, rather than punch, in the face.
Love the vox. Love the narrative. Love the Axe work and the backing band holds its own too.
COOL & phanque vay mush.


Cheers
rayc
"What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 323
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 323
Thank you very much Marty. Yeah, I definitely think I’ve got some issues with levels and the vocal mix. But I’ll learn from this and do better on future songs.

Cheers mate, kind regards

User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 323
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 323
Thank you Waoband, yeah I need to rethink how I present vocals and not go for such an expansive sound. I think I’ve just pushed the doubling too far.

Thank you for listening and the review, kind regards

MarioD #862254 09/11/25 10:14 PM
User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 323
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 323
Thank you MarioD for listening and the review.

Alls good, the vocal presentation seems to need rethinking is the consensus I’m getting from the reviews.

Kind regards

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows Special Offers End Tomorrow (January 15th, 2026) at 11:59 PM PST!

Time really is running out! Save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK—only when you order by 11:59 PM PST on Thursday, January 15, 2026!

We've added many major new features and new content in a redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!

Version 2026 introduces a modernized GUI redesign across the program, with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, and a new Dark Mode option. There’s also a new side toolbar for quicker access to commonly used windows, and the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, making it easier to customize your workspace.

Another exciting new addition is the new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. You can view the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to process an entire track or focus on specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.

There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!

Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Windows to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!

Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.

If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® Special Offers Extended Until January 15, 2026!

Good news! You still have time to upgrade to the latest version of Band-in-a-Box® for Windows® and save. Our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® special now runs through January 15, 2025!

We've packed Band-in-a-Box® 2026 with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can process an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!

There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.

When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PST on January 15th, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.

Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® today! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

Happy New Year!

Thank you for being part of the Band-in-a-Box® community.

Wishing you and yours a very happy 2026—Happy New Year from all of us at PG Music!

Season's Greetings!

Wishing everyone a happy, healthy holiday season—thanks for being part of our community!

The office will be closed for Christmas Day, but we will be back on Boxing Day (Dec 26th) at 6:00am PST.

Team PG

Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: The Newly Designed Piano Roll Window

In this video, we explore the updated Piano Roll, complete with a modernized look and exciting new features. You’ll see new filtering options that make it easy to focus on specific note groups, smoother and more intuitive note entry and editing, and enhanced options for zooming, looping, and more.

Watch the video.

You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!

Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe

This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.

Watch the video.

You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!

Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®

With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!

These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!

This Free Bonus PAK includes:

  • The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK: -For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
  • MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
  • Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
  • Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
  • Playable RealTracks Set 5
  • RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
  • SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
  • Android Band-in-a-Box® App (included)

Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:


  • 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
  • FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
  • MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
  • Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
  • Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
  • RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
  • SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)

Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!

Forum Statistics
Forums57
Topics85,843
Posts796,852
Members39,970
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
Newest Members
GuitarMan_76, mcpro, Chris##, hendsatri, Gennaro Pirozzi
39,969 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 184
Noel96 157
DC Ron 121
rsdean 108
dcuny 88
Today's Birthdays
JohnM68
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5