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As you all know, there are a million ways to birth a melody, but my personal, highly scientific method involves strumming simple chords, singing pure, unadulterated gibberish, and then patiently (read: desperately) waiting for my notoriously unreliable muse to eventually show up and connect the dots. Mostly, she's off demanding royalties from a cloud somewhere, leaving me in the desolate, echoey wasteland known as 'Writer's Block.' (・⏠・)

This song is a result of that process. I classify it as 'unplugged' however, it's raw, it's got warts, and frankly, I'm not entirely sure it's house-trained yet so perhaps 'unhinged' is more accurate. ◔◡◔

Anyway, please do give it a listen, constructive feedback is always welcome.
– and maybe send a search party for my muse, I think she might be lost again already. (ˆ◡ˆ)

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Nicely done, Izzy! I don't think it's rough at all, just bare, which works great with the narrative. Nice use of BiaB instruments, and I like the slow build arrangement you've got here. That acoustic solo is a bit "outside" but I think it works fine. Cool ending, too. Super job!


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Hi Izzy!
I was initially struck by the likeness of your vocal in the first couple of verses to Peter Garrett of Midnight Oil - that’s a good thing. The instrumentation and melody of the verses provides the bleakness to demonstrate the futility of war. When the chorus comes in, the more typical pop chords and melody (which I loved) provide some hope of change. We all need hope.
It’s good to hear another one of yours - to add to the variety of your catalogue.
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I like your song, yes, it's raw, but that fits the theme perfectly.
The solo is not for me, in my opinion, it's more distracting than it is adding to this really beautiful song.
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Hi, Izzy.

Whatever it takes to get a song done - you can't just wait for the muse to show up.

I'd be hard pressed to say exactly what you're singing about, but it works! smile

I like the "raw" sound - it definitely didn't sound like it was recorded to a click track.


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Hi Izz,

This certainly grabbed my attention right away. The verses had an eerie quality that was very effective. The lyrics were good. Then the chorus came, which in and of itself, I quite liked. But at first, there was a disconnect between verse and chorus that I couldn't quite accept. I thought of a similar song, Bungalow Bill by the Beatles, that had that verse chorus disconnect. I always found that song a bit strange for the same reason. So perhaps you were in good company. However, by the third listen, it all came together for me. So that's my circuitous route to full appreciation of your latest here. I think it's a bold piece of music, and my hat is off to you for persevering through it. The naked outro was very effective, too. Great job!

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That's exactly how I write, too, Izzy. Sometimes also starting with BiaB, and once a style and chords are entered, your scientific method takes over. Well, your muse came up with another gem --warts and all. I love hearing you unplugged. Good vocal and the perfect group of instruments to carry the messge within the lyrics. Message? Hey, I like the harmony at the end. Well written song with a good mix and interesting musicians.

I also saw your muse at the Grammys wearing gold earings with your initials on them.


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Your written intro shows that you know that it can be improved, but while I think the chorus is great on all levels it's actually the only verse about the war within, while the rest of it is about the without. … Also, frack the news, we're all special! Even the robotic news people - only they don't know it! laugh


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Thankyou for all your lovely comments which I read, absorbed and appreciate.

Now, for​ a tiny, post-performance confession, which might explain why some lines felt​ a bit... abstract/ambiguous

 Every single line was actually​ a wink​ оr​ a nod,​ a subtle nudge​  about Artificial Intelligence and its fascinating, sometimes baffling, impact​ оn creativity.​ I held back from saying this initially because, you know, "live and let live!"​ – and​ my primary goal was for the song​ tо stand​ оr fall​ оn its own melodic feet. But​ іt seems​ I was perhaps​ a touch too subtle or simply not brave enough to have the courage of my convictions to reveal it's true story for fear of stepping on toes.

And those 'charming imperfections' (let's call them 'intentional human-ness')​ іn the tuning and timing? They weren't just​ my usual performance quirks! They were​ a deliberate, slightly mischievous protest against the often-pristine, sometimes too perfect, output​ оf​ AI productions.​ A little hymn​ tо the gloriously wobbly, beautifully un-quantized heart​ оf human performance.

That line, "The news reminds​ us we're not special anymore" really speaks​ tо this feeling​ I was trying​ tо capture.

AI is an absolute marvel, and I quite honestly don't know what I'd do without my digital co-pilot these days. It infiltrates almost every aspect of my personal and professional life, and for that, I am eternally grateful! For instance, tools like Synth V? A genuine godsend– a truly wonderful innovation for those who consider themselves 'vocally challenged',

Now, where my enthusiastic nod turns into a gently raised eyebrow is a rather specific scenario. When one feeds a few creative crumbs – be it audio snippets or a well-crafted prompt – into the algorithmic engine of Suno, and then proceeds to claim the entire resulting masterpiece as their unique, unaided brainchild... well, it feels a touch like dropping a coin into a jukebox and, once the music starts playing, humbly accepting all the applause for having personally composed, performed, and produced every last note of that chart-topping hit. A brilliant selection, perhaps, but perhaps not entirely one's own creation, if you catch my drift!"

They say machine learning​ AI mines every song ever written and delivers the best compilation​ іn seconds. But haven't many​ оf​ us 'seasoned' songsmiths spent decades doing our own internal data mining, absorbing the classics and the obscure, letting​ іt simmer​ іn our own wonderfully messy human brains?​ We might take​ a little longer​ tо 'process' our inspirations, but the resulting stew often has​ a unique, irreplaceable flavour.​ As​ my song mused, "The war within was meant​ tо​ be​ / Lost somewhere but​ I began​ tо see​ / The script​ іs old, the actors change​ / But we’re still stuck​ оn the same old stage." Where​ dо​ we draw our creative lines​ іn this new landscape?

Anyway, just some musings from​ a human who still believes​ іn the magic​ оf​ a slightly off-key note and​ a truly unexpected lyric. Not trying​ tо open​ a can​ оf worms, just perhaps​ tо gently swirl the conversation!

P.S.​ On​ a lighter note,​ іf any​ оf you find​ my absent muse could you please put her​ оn the first available QANTAS flight? She owes​ me​ a chorus.

Best regards and happy, human-powered (or thoughtfully AI-assisted!) songwriting​ tо you all,

Izzy. (I've been Bizzy now I have some time to listen and comment on your wonderfull creations)

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Three words, tre..mend..ous.

Everything about this is unique, your singing, your arrangement, your lyrics, it’s all there. If I could swear, I’d say it’s f&$#ig terrific.

Excellent, kind regards

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Hi Izzy,
Wow, that moment when the song opened up into the chorus! It made me want to cry. I really enjoyed that for itself and in contrast to the raw, somewhat choppy verses. You've got something here. Powerful lyrics made all the more touching for the unplugged aspect, but I can also hear a plugged in version in my head.

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A very different, but somewhow very interesting song. Your voice starts singinging, when you sing with power. Reminds me of some of my favourites: Velvet Underground, Jonathan Richman etc., but somehow your unique. Anyeays your songs arised emotions, and that's important.

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Izzy, this is really good as is.
Personally I wouldn't change a thing.
I like the rawness of this one.
"Another scandal another war
The news reminds us we're not special anymore" What a fantastic lyric,sad but so true.
It may be raw but it is a damn good song.


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We’re late to the party and thus read your spoiler post before listening. smile

“Now, where my enthusiastic nod turns into a gently raised eyebrow is a rather specific scenario. When one feeds a few creative crumbs – be it audio snippets or a well-crafted prompt – into the algorithmic engine of Suno, and then proceeds to claim the entire resulting masterpiece as their unique, unaided brainchild... well, it feels a touch like dropping a coin into a jukebox and, once the music starts playing, humbly accepting all the applause for having personally composed, performed, and produced every last note of that chart-topping hit. A brilliant selection, perhaps, but perhaps not entirely one's own creation, if you catch my drift!"

We catch the drift and the issue we have is that we feel the above is thoughtful and well written - here comes the “but” - it’s for us a heckuva understatement! smile After streaming sucked the life out of independent artists money-wise this technology can ultimately destroy even streaming payments sans it being banned. OK that’s our drift. smile

So setting aside your remarkably cool little “innovations” throughout the tune it is an outstanding write.

“Another scandal another war 

The news reminds us we're not special anymore

Another scandal another war

The news reminds us we're not special anymore”

Ahhh … the days of Walter Cronkite and no social media.

Heckuva project and we enjoyed it and reading your post and the followup.
And the session guys and the mix.

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Hi Izzy,
Okay. I see the song as a rough demo for now.
There's a lot of potential in your song.
The chorus is really good, and your voice fits in nicely.
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Originally Posted by Knee Wobbler
Three words, tre..mend..ous.

Everything about this is unique, your singing, your arrangement, your lyrics, it’s all there. If I could swear, I’d say it’s f&$#ig terrific.

Excellent, kind regards

Lee, thank you so much for this absolutely… tre..mend..ous… comment! 😁

I appreciate you trying to stick to three words, and then just throwing caution to the wind with such fantastic detail.🤪

As for the 'f&$#ig terrific' part – I can absolutely feel the conviction behind those symbols, and it's quite possibly the highest compliment I've ever received without a single actual f-bomb being dropped. My delicate ears (and ego) are both thrilled! ꌃ꒒ꀎꌗꃅꀤꈤꁅ

Thrilled that the uniqueness of the singing, arrangement, and lyrics all came through. You've truly made my day. ☘

Cheers Mate 🍺

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Originally Posted by BYOBand
Hi Izzy,
Wow, that moment when the song opened up into the chorus! It made me want to cry. I really enjoyed that for itself and in contrast to the raw, somewhat choppy verses. You've got something here. Powerful lyrics made all the more touching for the unplugged aspect, but I can also hear a plugged in version in my head.

Hi Beth,

Wow, thank you for such an amazing and detailed comment! 💗 🌼

Okay, first thing's first: Are you alright? Should I send over an emergency-tissue-delivery-by-drone service? My apologies – I promise I wasn't trying to induce a tear-jerking experience, just... you know, trying to make some music! Though, if it made you feel something that deeply, then maybe I'll take it as a compliment... albeit with a slight pang of guilt for your tear ducts. 😇 ☂

Seriously though, that's incredibly touching to hear about the chorus opening up – that's exactly the kind of emotional lift I was hoping for, so thank you for noticing that contrast with the verses. And the idea of a plugged-in version in your head? Ooh, now I'm wondering if that one would require a full-blown flood warning! 🌧

Thanks again for listening so deeply and for such wonderful feedback, Beth. You've definitely given me a boost (and maybe a new understanding of my 'emotional impact' capabilities!).

Cheers,

Izzy

PS Thanks a ton for all your ongoing support of my music - much appreciated!! 👍

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Originally Posted by Brno
A very different, but somewhow very interesting song. Your voice starts singinging, when you sing with power. Reminds me of some of my favourites: Velvet Underground, Jonathan Richman etc., but somehow your unique. Anyeays your songs arised emotions, and that's important.

Oh, thank you so much, Brno! "Very different but somehow very interesting" is a fantastic compliment to start with.

I especially love your observation about my voice "singinging" when I sing with power – it's like it finally decides to really belt it out then! Maybe it's a bit shy until it gets loud.

And to be mentioned in the same breath as Velvet Underground and Jonathan Richman... that's incredibly high praise, thank you. To be "somehow unique" in that company is exactly what I aspire to.

Ultimately, knowing that my songs "arised emotions" is the greatest compliment of all. That's truly what it's all about.

Thanks again for listening so thoughtfully and for sharing your wonderful insights. It made my day!

My best to you
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Originally Posted by MarioD
Izzy, this is really good as is.
Personally I wouldn't change a thing.
I like the rawness of this one.
"Another scandal another war
The news reminds us we're not special anymore" What a fantastic lyric,sad but so true.
It may be raw but it is a damn good song.

As always Mario - A huge appreciation to you for supporting my music. 💗
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Originally Posted by Janice & Bud
We’re late to the party and thus read your spoiler post before listening. smile

“Now, where my enthusiastic nod turns into a gently raised eyebrow is a rather specific scenario. When one feeds a few creative crumbs – be it audio snippets or a well-crafted prompt – into the algorithmic engine of Suno, and then proceeds to claim the entire resulting masterpiece as their unique, unaided brainchild... well, it feels a touch like dropping a coin into a jukebox and, once the music starts playing, humbly accepting all the applause for having personally composed, performed, and produced every last note of that chart-topping hit. A brilliant selection, perhaps, but perhaps not entirely one's own creation, if you catch my drift!"

We catch the drift and the issue we have is that we feel the above is thoughtful and well written - here comes the “but” - it’s for us a heckuva understatement! smile After streaming sucked the life out of independent artists money-wise this technology can ultimately destroy even streaming payments sans it being banned. OK that’s our drift. smile

So setting aside your remarkably cool little “innovations” throughout the tune it is an outstanding write.

“Another scandal another war 

The news reminds us we're not special anymore

Another scandal another war

The news reminds us we're not special anymore”

Ahhh … the days of Walter Cronkite and no social media.

Heckuva project and we enjoyed it and reading your post and the followup.
And the session guys and the mix.

J&B

Janice & Bud,

Thank you for those incredibly kind words about my initial post – you've well and truly caught my "drift," and then some! My "gently raised eyebrow" certainly seems to have met your "heckuva understatement" with a rather emphatic nod of agreement regarding the potential devastation this technology could wreak on independent artists. You've articulated the financial stakes with commendable clarity, and the specter of streaming payments being further eroded is indeed a chilling thought for any creator. My initial musings were perhaps more about the nuances of authorship, but you've rightly amplified the far more immediate and existential threat to livelihoods.

But let's pivot back to the music! It's truly gratifying to hear you enjoyed the tune, and I particularly appreciate you picking out those "remarkably cool little 'innovations'" – it means a lot when the details are noticed! And that particular sentiment, yearning for the days of Walter Cronkite's measured gravitas over today's relentless algorithmic firehose, yessiree!

Thanks so much for taking the time to listen, to engage with the post, and for the lovely shout-out to the session guys and the mix. It was indeed a heckuva project, and (as always) your feedback is truly invaluable.

Cheers,
Izzy

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We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!

Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!

In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!

Special offers until December 31st, 2025!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows is Here!

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows is here and it is packed with major new features! There’s a new modern look, a GUI redesign to all areas of the program including toolbars, windows, workflow and more. There’s a Multi-view layout for organizing multiple windows. A standout addition is the powerful AI-Notes feature, which uses AI neural-net technology to transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI—entire mixes or individual instruments—making it easy to study, view, and play parts from any song. And that’s just the beginning—there are over 60 new features in this exciting release.

Along with version 2026, we've released an incredible lineup of new content! There's 202 new RealTracks, brand-new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two new RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!

Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows and save up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special offer—available until December 31, 2025. Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page to explore all available upgrade options.

2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
Our Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK are loaded with amazing add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is included with most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows packages, but you can unlock even more—including 20 unreleased RealTracks—by upgrading to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49. Browse the full contents of each package and listen to demos here.

XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!

XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!

The XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs special offers are now available until August 31st at 11:59pm PDT!

Ready to take your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 experience to the next level? Now’s the perfect time! Expand your style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs—packed with a wide variety of genres to inspire your next musical creation.

What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?

XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-9 includes 900 styles!

Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). With over 3,500 styles (and 35 MIDI styles) included in Xtra Styles PAKs 1-20, the possibilities are endless!

Get the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.

Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

Get Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 19 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

Don’t miss this chance to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box setup—at a great price!

Mac 2025 Special Upgrade Offers Extended Until August 15th!

It's not too late to upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® and save! We've extended our special until August 15, 2025!

We've added many major new features to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, including advanced AI tools like the amazing BB Stem Splitter and AI Lyrics Generator, as well as VST3 plugin support, and Equalize Temp. Plus, there’s a new one-stop MIDI Patches Picker with over 1,100 MIDI patches to choose from, all neatly categorized by GM numbers. The MultiPicker Library is enhanced with tabs for the SongPicker, MIDI Patch Picker, Chord Builder, AI Lyrics Generator, and Song Titles Browser, and the tabs are organized into logical groups. The Audiophile Edition is enhanced with FLAC files , which are 60% smaller than AIFF files while maintaining identical audio quality, and now ships on a fast 1TB SSD, and much more!

Check out all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® here:

Purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac during our special to save up to 50% off your upgrade purchase and receive a FREE BONUS PAK of amazing new Add-ons. These include the 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK, Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana, Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes, MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano, Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7, Playable RealTracks Set 4, RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark, and more!

Upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and add 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and 20 RealStyles, FLAC Files for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks, Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster, MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster, Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8, and RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe.
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs!

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