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Velvet on Vinyl !
So, I am dealing with some serious health issues, so I write a lot of tunes to keep my mind and fingers active. I wrote this tune today, it seemed fitting for the circumstances.
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Incredibly impressive!
This is a sensational arrangement, the vocals are clear, the instruments add beautiful color and the mix is superb.
Impressive indeed.
Please tell us more about the tracks that you used.


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Originally Posted by AudioTrack
Incredibly impressive!
This is a sensational arrangement, the vocals are clear, the instruments add beautiful color and the mix is superb.
Impressive indeed.
Please tell us more about the tracks that you used.

Thank you very much. I use a various set of tools to easily generate sketches to see if they will make it into my live busking sets. I have created my own style in BiaB and also in other virtual tools. The memo in BiaB looks like this, I use the audio stem and mute the other stems, other times I import the stems first. This song is in 12/8.
****** Song Summary *************
Title: Velvet on Vinyl
File:Velvet on Vinyl.SGU
Key=Am , Tempo 110, Length (m:s)=1:18
No intro. 32 bar chorus, from bar 1 to bar 32. Repeat x1 chorus
No Melody
No Soloist track.
Song is saved with Volume, Pan, Reverb, Chorus, Bank0,
Song is saved with bar changes for Tempo, Time signature,
Style is disabled {I use Michael}

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Hi Donny - I'm very sorry that you're dealing with serious health issues,
wishing you a full and speedy recovery from that!!
I agree with AudioTrack - the sounds and arrangements you produce
are crazy impressive! The bit I'm missing in learning how you go about
your creative process is having a chance to hear 'before & after' -
it would be incredibly helpful to listen to even 1 track before it's
processed through Suno, etc! Any chance Donny??
Many thanks for letting us hear your extremely classy and
polished end results - long may you keep creating them!!

Best wishes, Carl

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Originally Posted by DonnyGee
This song is in 12/8
12/8? I'm still having trouble relating to that. Are you really sure?


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Originally Posted by DonnyGee
Thank you very much. I use a various set of tools to easily generate sketches to see if they will make it into my live busking sets. I have created my own style in BiaB and also in other virtual tools. The memo in BiaB looks like this, I use the audio stem and mute the other stems, other times I import the stems first. This song is in 12/8.
****** Song Summary *************
Title: Velvet on Vinyl
File:Velvet on Vinyl.SGU
Key=Am , Tempo 110, Length (m:s)=1:18
No intro. 32 bar chorus, from bar 1 to bar 32. Repeat x1 chorus
No Melody
No Soloist track.
Song is saved with Volume, Pan, Reverb, Chorus, Bank0,
Song is saved with bar changes for Tempo, Time signature,
Style is disabled {I use Michael}

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OK, more issues. The above states:
No Intro
Length 1:18
Tempo: 110

The summary definitely isn't that same song that I listened to.

I clearly identify an 8 bar intro, a tempo of 80, and a length of 4:11

Should I be confused?
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Originally Posted by DonnyGee
Thank you very much. I use a various set of tools to easily generate sketches to see if they will make it into my live busking sets. I have created my own style in BiaB and also in other virtual tools. ...
OK, I'll ask the question:
How much of this song is BIAB and how much of this song is AI?


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Originally Posted by AudioTrack
OK, I'll ask the question:
How much of this song is BIAB and how much of this song is AI?
The final audio you're hearing is all Suno.

I'm not sure why Donny keeps listing BiaB tracks, when the audio from those custom tracks comes from Suno.

Using BiaB in the creation of songs isn't a forum requirement. Being a BiaB user is the only requirement.

The reason for listing BiaB tracks - if you use them - is so other users can check out those tracks if they want to use them in their own songs.

It would be better to just say tracks were created by giving Suno tracks generated in BiaB.


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Originally Posted by AudioTrack
OK, I'll ask the question:
How much of this song is BIAB and how much of this song is AI?
The final audio you're hearing is all Suno.

I'm not sure why Donny keeps listing BiaB tracks, when the audio from those custom tracks comes from Suno.

Using BiaB in the creation of songs isn't a forum requirement. Being a BiaB user is the only requirement.

The reason for listing BiaB tracks - if you use them - is so other users can check out those tracks if they want to use them in their own songs.

It would be better to just say tracks were created by giving Suno tracks generated in BiaB.

Almost, I didn't list any BiaB tracks. However, for some songs, I use BiaB for chords only, I then write the lyrics after the chord work is done, usually with my acoustic, once the lyrics are close then it is just a matter of plugging the metadata into Suno, like I say, I use my own persona. Sometimes I will sing along, both lead and harmony, and I play along, but not every song. And yes, I have said a few times that using BiaB is not a requirement for this forum, however, I love to use BiaB. Now for busking, I am using BiaB only, but I am going to be de-stemming the Suno songs and working them with a DAW to let me busk with them. But I have to deal with some medical problems first. Thanks for stepping in there over some confusion. And for me personally, I don't use A I without telling it what I want, but some do.
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Originally Posted by AudioTrack
Originally Posted by DonnyGee
Thank you very much. I use a various set of tools to easily generate sketches to see if they will make it into my live busking sets. I have created my own style in BiaB and also in other virtual tools. ...
OK, I'll ask the question:
How much of this song is BIAB and how much of this song is AI?
10% BiaB, 20% Suno, 70% me, I own it. If you are interested in my persona, I made it public, so you can use it in Suno but not in BiaB, just ask Suno to load the persona, Michael. Now, if you really want to get the parts, write a song in Suno with my persona, go into BiaB and upload your song with stem separation and Wah la, you have every stem. You are welcome.
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I have absolutely no issues with ownership. I just asked for a clarification. Mainly because the Song Summary you sent didn't make any sense to me.


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Originally Posted by AudioTrack
I have absolutely no issues with ownership. I just asked for a clarification. Mainly because the Song Summary you sent didn't make any sense to me.
Gotcha, thanks for listening, and being interested in such a changing world. Glad you liked the music, play on my friend.
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