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"Pretty please" can we soon have some badly needed fixes for BB Mac 2025
I don't know of any other pro-audio app developer that waits so long before even a version X.01 release is put out.
What gives?
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What problems are you looking to be fixed? I haven't seen many complaints about the 2025 for Mac release.
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"Pretty please" can we soon have some badly needed fixes for BB Mac 2025 4 months is quite a bit longer than in previous years. Normally, we've seen two or three fixes by now. What problems are you looking to be fixed? I haven't seen many complaints about the 2025 for Mac release. Then there is this. How much of what you want to see are bugs—documented functionality that does not work—and features that you want to see? I know that there is a multi-display issue that affects some but Apple has issues that still haven't been resolved—been working with Apple since my Mac Studio showed up two years ago and some have been resolved. When I ask for specific details about setups, I don't the answers I need. Since I don't read minds, I still don't know what might be BIAB and what might be Apple. To refresh: I ask for the exact models of the monitors being used and exactly how they are connected and into which ports.
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bugs fixed.
Nothing else Mike.
no new features.
( but truth be told theres plenty of Apple audio-app devs - whether MacOS or iPadOS/iOS - frustrated whth audio related OS bugs down to Apple - and the poor - often undocumented support devs get )
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What problems are you looking to be fixed? I haven't seen many complaints about the 2025 for Mac relemase. You kidding? Or maybe - truth be told - you dont see them because I - like many beta testers - submitted them off "public record" privately to PG devs. But the bugs are real. Plenty reported from me. And many others. PG know about them.
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What problems are you looking to be fixed? I haven't seen many complaints about the 2025 for Mac relemase. You kidding? Or maybe - truth be told - you dont see them because I - like many beta testers - submitted them off "public record" privately to PG devs. But the bugs are real. Plenty reported from me. And many others. PG know about them. If I know Jim, no, he is definitely not kidding. Jim, like myself are Windows users. We don't have visibility to bugs reported in the Mac part of the forums, so we don't know anything about them. That's why he asked. I'm also interested to know. How bad is it?
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I asked because I do not remember reading any 2025 BiaB for Mac bug reports in the public forum.
The BiaB for Mac release always appears to be much smoother than the BiaB for Windows release based on feedback posted in the public forums.
Also I asked because it generally is easier to address specific issues versus general comments.
Since the issues were published in the Mac beta forum why wasn't this thread published in the Beta forum? Aren't the two spaces normally kept separate?
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My understanding is that Beta testers are not supposed to disclose that they are part of that program.
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[quote=Jim Fogle]What problems are you looking to be fixed? I haven't seen many complaints about the 2025 for Mac relemase. I'm also interested to know. How bad is it? Bad enough to stop me from using the product "in anger" to compose or work on anything "producer-wise" until the bugs are fixed. Until then its just a cool tool for having fun and practicing or working on my jazz/blues guitar chops/licks etc. Such a shame.
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I wonder if some key coding staff have left PG.... just a thought...
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My understanding is that Beta testers are not supposed to disclose that they are part of that program. All the bugs in question are now in the PUBLIC V1.0 2025 release. They're not bugs on some upcoming off-limits from public unreleased version. if PG want to punish or ban me posting or commenting for breach of beta policy so be it - but might be a better use of their time and resources if they just fixed the bugs.
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I asked because I do not remember reading any 2025 BiaB for Mac bug reports in the public forum.
The BiaB for Mac release always appears to be much smoother than the BiaB for Windows release based on feedback posted in the public forums.
Also I asked because it generally is easier to address specific issues versus general comments.
Since the issues were published in the Mac beta forum why wasn't this thread published in the Beta forum? Aren't the two spaces normally kept separate? The beta thread is meant to be only for a BETA version of their apps. The bugs in question are now NO LONGER IN BETA!!! But if pressed I'm happy to share all the bug reports here. But it makes no difference at the end of the day. PG know what the bugs are.
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Bad enough to stop me from using the product "in anger" to compose or work on anything "producer-wise" until the bugs are fixed. If you do not tell us what is wrong, no one can help you. You have to tell us exactly what you are trying to do and how it is not working—be specific and walk us through it. No one here wants to read your bug reports. Save those for Tech Support.
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If you do not tell us what is wrong, no one can help you. You have to tell us exactly what you are trying to do and how it is not working—be specific and walk us through it. Agreed. It's like phoning your mechanic to say that you don't like the way your car runs and expecting him to know how to fix it without explaining what the problem is that you are experiencing. Step by step actions, expectations and results are needed. This can benefit everyone - us and PG Music 
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I posted this issue in another thread, but it also suits this one, since it deals with a likely bug in BIAB 2025 for Mac:
Mi BIAB has total access to the disk and all the permissions.
The issue is with midi sounds since the moment I used the Medley option, thus:
Track settings and actions dialog / Medley / Change to a new Real Tracks every / 8 bars / OK / Play.
Everything sounded as expected, but from that moment on, the GM sounds are behaving crazy: when I play back a MGU file with midi sounds, the piano plays the percussion part, and the other instruments are either silent or holding all the time a single note. This aplies to both new and old MGU files.
If I save a MGU file as a MIDI file, and play it back with a midi player, it sounds fine, but not when played back from within BIAB: even the audible lead-in instrument is a piano, instead of the expected default side stick.
I would appreciate any help to solve this issue.
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Bad enough to stop me from using the product "in anger" to compose or work on anything "producer-wise" until the bugs are fixed. If you do not tell us what is wrong, no one can help you. You have to tell us exactly what you are trying to do and how it is not working—be specific and walk us through it. No one here wants to read your bug reports. Save those for Tech Support. Bad enough to stop me from using the product "in anger" to compose or work on anything "producer-wise" until the bugs are fixed. If you do not tell us what is wrong, no one can help you. You have to tell us exactly what you are trying to do and how it is not working—be specific and walk us through it. No one here wants to read your bug reports. Save those for Tech Support. You do realise you’re contradicting yourself don’t you! On the one hand you say : <“ If you do not tell us what is wrong, no one can help you. You have to tell us exactly what you are trying to do and how it is not working—be specific and walk us through it.> And since far as I can tell you’re NOT a PG Music employee I assume by “us” you mean folks here in this thread. Then you go on and say: < “ No one here wants to read your bug reports. Save those for Tech Support.”> Er… what?? And I already told you I’ve already submitted bug reports to PG. And PG devs can always contact me via PM , email etc if they need more information as to replicability . Make up your mind
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Chai sir what mike means is as users we would love to help but if you do not give a detailed report on the forum no one can help you.
Yes, you sent a bug report to PGM but it really helps to bounce the issues here. PGM only has so many systems to test bugs on, but the user base has thousands. Many times, we find solutions that you may not have thought of that will help you to work until PGM works things out. Another reason for posting problems is that often what one of us thinks is a bug is a glitch in our personal setup. That can cause PGM to chase ghosts and waste time hunting a problem that does not exist globally.
These are just suggestions. You can choose to ignore or not up to you.
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Chai sir what mike means is as users we would love to help but if you do not give a detailed report on the forum no one can help you. Exactly. You must walk us through your problem step-by-step. Either we can duplicate it on our systems or we can't. Either result is valuable. Oftentimes, we can see the user error and post how to avoid it or suggest a workaround. Sometimes we can verify an actual bug and submit it ourselves. A bug is a result of a documented action that gives contrary results. If the documentation states that, to accomplish x, you follow steps a, b, c etc. and that doesn't work, then it's either a bug or the documentation is incorrect. What is not a bug: I want the app to do x but it won't — that's a feature request and you've made many. There's nothing wrong with that but you might not get it in the current version or ever. Apple will drop Rosetta 2 with macOS 28 which means that BIAB 2027 for the Mac will need to be Native but it will not happen before. Yes, I am experienced in reading bug reports but I am just another user and do not work for PG Music so I do not want to read yours—I don't care about them. If, however, I am attempting to verify what you are doing and that generates a crash log on my system, I will read that and see what it tells me.
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This aplies to both new and old MGU files.
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This aplies to both new and old MGU files. Firstly, welcome to the neighborhood. As articulated above, other users need more detail to be able to help. - what styles were used? - what steps were taken? - what was the result? - what was the expectation? - what were previous results? - can you explain the difference between 'new' and 'old' MGU files? It's just so difficult for us forum end-users to analyze and reproduce with no baseline to work form.
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