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My son, (or his friend) snuck into my studio to steal a usb cable and in the process knocked my band in a box drive off onto the floor. How can I go about rescuing the thousands of hours of work not to mention the software itself that is on the drive? The front cover had popped off but I was able to put it back however it will not power up when turned on and the cable feels like it is loose when it plugs into the back (although it has always felt a bit loose).
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I assume you mean an external drive supplied by PG Music.
It is fairly easy to remove the case and check the internal wiring and connections. In fact, one of mine came with a loose cable from shipping and did not work until I opened the enclosure and reseated the cable. My enclosure had one screw. The trick is the find the one right screw.
It is only a little harder to do what I did, take the drive out of the supplied enclosure and mount it in your PC along with the other SATA drives. If you have a free SATA port, SATA cable, and available power cable, try that. Or, if that makes you feel uneasy (or your PC has no room), you can get a Thermaltake USB adapter for SATA drives for about $40 at Best Buy. You just drop the drive right into the slot on the Thermaltake.
If you should be able to get to your files, consider backing them up onto something else.
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I was about to post the same comment as Matt. I had a USB drive go bad but it was just the electronics in the USB housing. I pulled the SATA harddrive out and installed it into another portable USB drive I had laying around and found that the harddrive was functioning perfectly with all my data intact.
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My reply is as much for any PC user as it is for Dave here.
At the company where I retired, I worked in Information Systems for several years. Out of about 350 on-site users inevitably, at least one person each year would give just about anything to get it all back (while I was trying my best to find a solution for them, I'm almost certain that there were lots of cigarettes, coffee and fingernail-biting that day). So, while I don't know how desperate your situation is, just in case you plug it in and find nothing (that is no lights, no noise, no spin-up, PC doesn't see it, etc) ...
There are companies (in the USA I know for certain) that for a certain fee can remove the platters from the internal drive cage and they'll typically get a very large majority of it back (sometimes all of it). Some of these companies will even ship it back to you on a new drive and guarantee it. I personally used three of these companies; CompUSA and Circuit City in Detroit, Michigan and Champion Computer in Boca Raton, Florida).
I know this can sound like a pricey proposition (and it can be), but sometimes compared to the investment in time you have on the files that were on the drive, you might find yourself without options (assuming you have no backups of course). In one case in particular, one of our mechanical engineers lost about two years of CAD drawings off a PC (his personal laptop PC he used between work and home). This happened at least ten years ago and at that time, my company was without options and paid a hefty $12,000+ dollars to retrieve those drawing files. Believe it or not, he kept his job.
Not good news I'm afraid, but it happens to plenty of people who I know that have tossed the drive in the garbage without ever considering their options. I know that as is the case with business machines, the data can easily exceed the value of your total hardware and software expense. And sometimes it costs people their jobs -- While not something you see every day, it did happen once at my company that I'm aware of.
Good luck to you.
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And of course, it doesn't help you right now, but in the future remember the mantra...
Backup, backup, backup!
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Thanks for the quick response guys, I had to take an Ambien and go to bed. That gives me some options if anyone has others please post as well. I'm not good with fixing things generally. The only company I recognized up above was Circuit City and I know at least in our area they are out of business.
I wanted to back up this drive but with my wife out of work, I didn't feel I had the money at the time to buy an extra drive for that.
At least the next few gigs don't require it but my private lessons will be a bit different.
Thanks again.
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Update, well with the confidence that I would not destroy the thing by removing it from its case I found that the shock had evidently moved the drive forward in the housing and partially disconnected it from the attachment at the back, after pushing it back together and plugging it in it started to purr in my hands. SWEET! Now to buy a backup after apparently dodging this bullet.
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A backup drive is actually very cheap insurance. Computing without a backup is like driving on a deserted, pot-hole filled road, miles from civilization without a spare tire or a cell phone.
I'm glad you got out with only a warning.
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I don't know where you are, but when I was in CostCo the other day, they had a 1.5TB Seagate external USB drive for $99 (which normally goes for $130 and used to go for $140).
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TigerDirect and NewEgg have some good deals on external hard drives as well. I have purchased from both of these companies with absolutely no problems what so ever. I would also save some money and get a disk imaging program also to back up your complete computer. That is OS, programs and data. They are very simple to use. I use Acronis I understand things are tight, they are here also, but without a good backup system in place you could loose a lot of irreplaceable data and maybe some programs. Just something to think about for the future.
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Dittos to Acronis. A mirror image works for me.
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And of course, it doesn't help you right now, but in the future remember the mantra...
Backup, backup, backup!
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I wanted to back up this drive but with my wife out of work, I didn't feel I had the money at the time to buy an extra drive for that.
As others have posted above, "backup" drives are very cheap.
But it's really an issue of how much is your data worth to you.
I guarantee to you, every mechanical thing (including computers and hard drives) will fail eventually.
There are also free online backup solutions.
Mozy will back up your data for free: https://mozy.com/
Cox also does free online backups.
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One thing i do is to buy a cheap external drive box, usually around $20 and every time i do a hard drive change at work or for a friend, i keep the old drive, i even have picked them up at garage sales for $2 and take them home pop them in the external box and plug into ta USB port and most of the time they read fine. Then format them and put them in a drawer for later. When ever i need a storage unit for back up pop one in and copy the data. pop it out and box and label it. I have about four or five right now, and they are great simple storage. Mostly they are old 30 to 80 gig drives I have replaced out of a system at work where the boot up sectors are corrupt. They still open up as slave drive nicely. My favorite is a 40 gig laptop drive i replace in my old Compac with an 80 gigger. It is in a small external box and i use it to shuttle from computer to computer. Here is a great place for purchasing backup drives, for the less brave. http://www.geeks.com/products.asp?cat=HDDFunny thing is i live about 4 miles from the outlet for Geeks.com, they have tons of cool stuff here are the drive cases some real nice prices. http://www.geeks.com/products.asp?cat=CSE
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Update: Hey thanks for all the good advice, I went ahead and pull the drive from the case to check for connection problems and found that the computer would read (beep when plugging in) the mounting section even though I had removed the actual drive from it. So I pushed it all back together and it started purring nicely in my hand. When it fell it had hit face down and had separated the connection from the drive to the mounting so it actually was a cheap fix (which never happens for me).
So I did also take advice and go get a back up drive with imaging software and then spent a day saving a copy of the internal and external drives.
Dodged a bullet this time, thanks for the help.
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Great news. Thanks for posting the update.
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folk here like to help other folk ......... guy1
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Remember:
if you want to be safe, 1 copy is not enough.
Make a second copy and if you want to be clever, keep it in another room or, better, another house.
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Safe deposit box. Don't matter how many backups. One fire can destroy 10 backups.
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or a flood!
I had everything backed up in 2006.
All my music, on paper in binders and on CDs and a Hard Drive and hundreds of cassettes.
We had to evacuate at around 9:00am, in less than half an hour.
We are both disabled so we packed up important papers and stuff in the car.
We brought my guitars upstairs just in case. No time or man power for anything else.
They told us there would be a few inches of water, maybe, in the basement.
We were told we could come back later in the afternoon.
The flood took out our whole first floor.
Three feet deep water mixed with mud, oil and sewage inside the house for 8 days.
Had one 250GB then which worked after being underwater for over a week.
Now I have four 500gb ext drives. 2 for 2 PCs each.
The cleanup and rebuilding is too painful to describe.
We have our home back after 2 1/2 years of work.
The first floor now looks new and better than before. We have hardly any furniture and we like it.
We love the space. Besides the losses, it was the best cleanout we ever had in 18 years.
End of story.
Wayne,
p.s. Don't ever think hiding something like in a little safe in the basement is a good idea. Water washes everything away. Half the stuff in our basement went right out the blown out windows, down into the river or somewhere else in town.
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One more thing!
I found my old 386 box from 1988-89 which was dead. I bought an external HD case and put the old 212mb Hard Drive in it and got at over a hundred of my song lyrics from the 70s and 80s. What a blessing.
Wayne,
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