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Because it's a bit off beat I thought I mention it here.
Others most likely know but I just found that in RB I can enter my chords, go to tracks, choose a track and style and generate a midi file for channel 1 piano,guitar,etc, nothing new so far but going to the next track I can change the style and create a midi pattern based on that style which is different from channel 1 on channel 2 for an instrument based on the channel 2 style and so on.
It might be interesting to choose 2 different piano styles to compliment each other like a Dave Brubeck jazz on channel 1 with a mellow pop(guitar or piano) on the other channel.
It also can get nasty very quickly with the wrong choices too, but with a cut and paste you could use just what works.
I was just noodling around and found this so it's new to me, maybe not to others.
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Since I don't use RB, that is news to me. That might not be a bad thing, either, if I can import into Sonar from RB. Never tried doing that, either.
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I see you haven't been reading mine or Silvertones posts Wyndham but it's good you found this feature. This is the "killer app" part of RB and what makes it head and shoulders above any other DAW. When people say that RB is a hybrid of Power Tracks and Biab, this is what they're talking about. To me it's no big deal that RB can simply open a Biab file, the really big deal is the fact that you can create multiple parts on different tracks using however many different styles you want and you can do it with either the Biab midi parts or with Real Tracks and Real Drums. Not only on different tracks either, you can swipe a part of any one track and only generate that portion of the track so you can put several different styles on the same track. When you combine this with using some tracks from a good midi file plus any live audio recording you do makes RB unique in the DAW world.
This feature Gary, is why I always question why someone cares about D & D to another DAW like Sonar. Sure, they have different workflows that you may be used to but RB really does have all the same functions and you can work just as fast once you get used to it with the one glaring exception of the VSTi tempo lock problem. One example is using volume envelopes. It's true it's not as elegant as some DAW's but RB does have that feature. Some people think that RB has problems with many different VST's but to me that's not true. I have a bunch of different plugins and they all work fine except for this one thing. Even the point about some VSTi's like SampleTank not responding to the volume slider is no big deal to me because I render my tracks to audio as soon as I'm happy with them anyway.
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also, since existing tracks in RB don't get regenerated every time you add a new part, you can even modify the chords for each part. For example, for pads you may want very simple triads, but for more decorative parts you can add transition chords or more complex variations of the base chords
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I see you haven't been reading mine or Silvertones posts Wyndham but it's good you found this feature. This is the "killer app" part of RB and what makes it head and shoulders above any other DAW. When people say that RB is a hybrid of Power Tracks and Biab, this is what they're talking about. To me it's no big deal that RB can simply open a Biab file, the really big deal is the fact that you can create multiple parts on different tracks using however many different styles you want and you can do it with either the Biab midi parts or with Real Tracks and Real Drums. Not only on different tracks either, you can swipe a part of any one track and only generate that portion of the track so you can put several different styles on the same track. When you combine this with using some tracks from a good midi file plus any live audio recording you do makes RB unique in the DAW world.
This feature Gary, is why I always question why someone cares about D & D to another DAW like Sonar. Sure, they have different workflows that you may be used to but RB really does have all the same functions and you can work just as fast once you get used to it with the one glaring exception of the VSTi tempo lock problem. One example is using volume envelopes. It's true it's not as elegant as some DAW's but RB does have that feature. Some people think that RB has problems with many different VST's but to me that's not true. I have a bunch of different plugins and they all work fine except for this one thing. Even the point about some VSTi's like SampleTank not responding to the volume slider is no big deal to me because I render my tracks to audio as soon as I'm happy with them anyway.
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Bob,
Its true that realband has some great features, by the way Wyndham thanks for showing that one to me, but so far I mainly use realband to generate all the realtracks I need and then I use it to export all the midi styles and realtracks to separate audio files which I then work on in cubase.
Why cubase since realband can do the same thing?
I find that realband has hard to use routines when trying to build up a master track from a number of sub tracks.
In cubase I just use the scissors tool to split a track and then I can mute with the mute tool which is X in cubase to silence that section.
Don't know if that is possible in realband Probably is but takes a lot longer to do?
The mixer in cubase is great as well, with mute, solo read and write and other tools on each channel.
Joe
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I wish I understood more of the "How to" post but I usually have to trip over it before i see what it is. I've had BIAB and now RB for years but am always learning what's new to me. Pat, I was thinking about the different chord patterns and how that might work. Since I'm not instrument capable, I just try different things that might sound good in either program till something works. Bob, there are some interesting piano parts in different styles that when looped and changed to guitar, work quite nice. I think I might give up my day job and head to Nashville, I can hear it calling now. Or as my wife sez "He can sing one song"On a Hill Far Away" very ,very far away" . Well back to the potters wheel, gotta make some more mugs in case we get some "Turestas" coming back from the beach next week. Maybe after that, then I can head to Nashville.  Later Wyndham
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Or as my wife sez "He can sing one song"On a Hill Far Away" very ,very far away" .
That reminds me of something a friend once said. He wanted to join the church choir, but didn't have a clue as to what part he should sing. So he went in to audition. After the audition, the choir director said that she would like for him to sing tenor....
ten or twelve miles away.
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This is a great feature.
Will this work with 2009.5?
Different Styles for each instrument in same song. Vey cool.
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This is a great feature.
Will this work with 2009.5?
Different Styles for each instrument in same song. Vey cool.
Wayne,
Yes, this is one of the original features that caused a lot of excitement around here when RB was first released. I think what the problem is with a lot of folks is they hear that RB can open Biab files and think it's just a different version of Biab and don't bother learning what RB can do. It can do a lot that Biab can't touch. Not that it completely replaces Biab though, these two programs complement each other.
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