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Lady Gaga is very talented as shown by the YouTube link above. Like Elvis said to Nixon (paraphrasing), you got your thing to do, I got mine. I don't care for a lot of her music but I love the song "Poker Face." There's more to her than self-promotion, unlike Madonna.
"The desire for fame is the last infirmity cast off even by the wise."
Cornelius Tacitus
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There's more to her than self-promotion, unlike Madonna.
Have to take issue with you there Charlie.
You cannot sell 250m records over 20 years, get albums ranked inside the Rolling Stone's "500 Greatest Albums of All Time", get inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and be defined, again by Rolling Stone, as "one of the greatest pop acts of all time" on self-promotion alone.
How familiar are you with her studio albums?
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Marc, I actually know little about her music or her albums. She has had a couple of songs out that I actually liked a lot. But the songs had nothing to do with her. I liked the songs themselves and just about anyone could've put their voice on them and the recording would've been as good or better. The musicians, production, equipment made the songs. Not her, she added nothing to them. I'm biased because I don't really care for her. Self promotion, to me, is what she's all about. She's always looking for another stunt to get tongues to wagging (such as the Britney Spears kissing incident). For the kids, she knows how to market and display a product on the shelves very well.
Now, here's an example of human nature that's funny. I like Britney Spears but she is basically in the the same category as Madonna (a star with no particular talent). Don't care for her music. Just like her. I guess it's her beauty and she seems sweet.
I have not heard Madonna's albums that made Rolling Stone's list but I take issue with a lot of things that Rolling Stone says (and I'm not that well versed in Rolling Stone either). I've read a few of their lists and anyone that puts so many guitar players ahead of Jeff Beck doesn't really have a clue (IMO). And anyone that says Bob Dylan's 'Like a Rolling Stone' is the #1 song of all time is clueless (that should get some reaction). Ever read the words to that song. When I was young I didn't care for Dylan. His later stuff, some of it I like. And his voice has really gotten good lately. Blues definitely was an influence on him.
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Some interesting thoughts there Charlie, thanks.
I also like Britney as an artist - although I'm not sure she's a great role model for her younger fans.
She has made 2 blindingly good pop singles (Baby, One More Time + Toxic)...which is 2 more than most.
As to whether you can somehow downgrade an artist because their input into the final product is limited, I'm not so sure. Surrounding yourself with the good people of the moment, whether it be songwriters, musicians, producers etc. is all part of the superstar skill set. Just ask David Bowie, MIchael Jackson (fair enough, we can't!) and Tina Turner...
This subject came up recently regarding Michael Jackson's Off the Wall (or is that Quincy Jones' Off the Wall?)
If you only listen to one Madonna album then - of course - listen to Ray of Light.
BTW, I also don't care that much for Like a Rolling Stone having sung it too many times for our covers band!
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