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I have 4 bars of a drum wav file and no clue how to do this. If anyone does and has the time, it's nothing fancy -no fills, no different A and b sections.

Just tell me where to email the 4 bars
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If I'm reading this correctly, you have a 4 bar drum loop and you want to convert this to a realdrum pattern. I don't think that in it's present stage you can do that with Band in a box... However, if you bring that into something like Sonar or Audition, you can loop it to your heart's content...

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Someone did a couple for me years back, so it's doable. I've just never done one and have such an infrequent need, that I thought it easier to put a request out there.
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Hello Dan,

To make a RealDrums style that simply loops the four bars, you might think you could just do this:

pattern,Normal,A,5,0,4,1

However, a bit more is required for this style to be fully functional. First, this style wouldn't be able to play anything during the B section of the song or middle chorus, so you would need to add:

pattern,Normal,B,5,0,4,1

But this style still wouldn't have anything to play in a fill bar (the bar before a part marker) or in a postfill bar (the bar that has the part marker). In addition, it wouldn't be able to play anything during the count-in or in the ending bars, and wouldn't be able to play shots or pushes. You may not need to hear a drum fill, but you don't want your drums to become silent at a fill bar so there has to be something designated as a fill - it can be regular playing.

Adding 2 bars at the beginning of your wave file for the count-in, followed by your 4 bars of playing, followed by an ending, and then a bar for a shot might give us something this:

pattern,Count-in,0,5,0,2,-1
pattern,Normal,A,5,0,4,1
pattern,Normal,B,5,0,4,1
pattern,PostFill,A,5,0,4,1
pattern,PostFill,B,5,0,4,1
pattern,Fill,A,5,0,1,4
pattern,Fill,B,5,0,1,4
pattern,ending,Aending,5,0,2,5
pattern,ending,Bending,5,0,2,5
Shot,1,7,0,480,1,90
Shot,0,7,0,480,1,90

However there is a problem with this, which is that your 4 bars of playing can now only play if there is a partmarker every 4 bars. This is because we have designated the last bar of playing as a fill bar. We need to add another bar to your wave file after the 4 bars of regular playing for the fill (you can just copy and paste from one of your existing bars).

The next problem is that BB won't be able to find any patterns to play if it needs a 1, 2, or 3 bar gap to fill. (i.e. if the number of bars between partmarkers can't be divided by 4). So at mininmum we need to add a 1 bar pattern (don't need to add any more bars to your wave file for this).

You may want BB to play the one bar pattern ONLY if it is not possible for it to play the full 4 bar pattern. In this case, set the relative weight of the 4 bar patterns to 9 (always play). So you would end up with a wave file that has a total of 10 bars, and the text file like this. Note that the count-in is considered to be bars -1 and 0.

wavename=FourBarDrumLoop_110_Style.wav
TimeSig=4
Offset=-8
dBAdjust=-4
Pushamount8=62
Pushamount16=30

pattern,Count-in,0,5,0,2,-1

pattern,ending,Aending,5,0,2,6
pattern,ending,Bending,5,0,2,6

pattern,Normal,A,9,0,4,1
pattern,Normal,B,9,0,4,1
pattern,Normal,A,5,0,1,2
pattern,Normal,B,5,0,1,2

pattern,PostFill,A,9,0,4,1
pattern,PostFill,B,9,0,4,1
pattern,PostFill,A,5,0,1,1
pattern,PostFill,B,5,0,1,1

pattern,Fill,A,5,0,1,5
pattern,Fill,B,5,0,1,5

Shot,1,8,0,480,1,90
Shot,0,8,0,480,1,90


You can download the final style from the link below (Tempo 110 bpm only). Unzip the folder, copy it to your Drums folder, replace the wave file with your own, and rebuild your RealDrums list.
http://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/support/patches/FourBarDrumLoop.zip


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Terrific Andrew -
I learned and made my track with your instruction and your invaluable template.
Thanks a million!
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Hi Andrew,

Thank you for that tutorial. It's given me an excellent insight into and area I know nothing about.

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Terrific Andrew -
I learned and made my track with your instruction and your invaluable template.
Thanks a million!
Dan




This is great. Also, long time forum member PWarren created the Biab Wiki some time ago and my apologies to him, I forgot all about it. I just remembered it and went there and he's got a lot of good stuff up including this: Wiki He has an interesting utility program to help with creating your own RD files. Andrew, I don't know if your instructions are duplicative or maybe they can add to what is already there. I will forward this thread to PWarren as well.
I think we should be paying more attention to this wiki because it looks like a lot of questions can be answered by simply linking to it.

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