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I find it funny people react the way they do. i didnt "give away" anything. I thought I wrote a thorough explanation as to what happened, you still are finding fault with me however.
Nobody insulted the software, and nobody insulted anybody. At least not until they told me how stupid I was for asking if the software is worthwhile.
If you continue to make me the enemy, I'll be the enemy. But whatever you chose i still find it funny.
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I agree, and people still havent changed their ways. What else can we do except wait for them to see the light
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I find it funny people react the way they do. i didnt "give away" anything.
Sure you did, you said - "Tee hee, still a riot, I havent even bought the software yet, and Im reaping rewards... endless humourous antedotes " - only a troll would say something that warped.
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I said, I find it funny.
Last time im going to explain it.
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Doesn't this forum have a moderator? I'm still a newb around here...
Sure it's kind of amusing, this troll, but antagonism like PIAB is displaying has seen many otherwise healthy, respectful forums degrade into useless blather.
It's too bad, because this thread has some interesting disussion, some by PIAB. But too much of his troll-blather mixed in.
Placed on ignore.
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I agree, and people still havent changed their ways. What else can we do except wait for them to see the light
Please do not misconstrue my comment as being any expression of support for most of your posts.
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I'll forget everything that's been said and I'll address your original post. For some reason I missed it until the flames were flying. There is a caveat. If you are sincere say so drop this thread and we'll all move on. If you're not sincere please just leave. Quote:
all sound great, but I dont see/hear anybody being able to get the sound they produce on those demo videos. They probably take the tracks and mix them and master them in a pro studio.
The people that do these are pros at it.
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They sound pretty close to real on those videos but all the stuff I hear with people using it sound like
maybe a tad above an auto arrangement you might find on a casio keyboard or something like that.
A might inflammatory. Some are not good but to say all is not accurate. You have not been around long enough to make that judgment.
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I think it's partially do to the fact that people still use midi mixed with their tracks which if you're doing covers, you probably have to do that, but I wanna hear a regular joe get the same results they are getting in those videos.
A regular Joe can't. They don't have all the skills especially in production.
I actually think Mac spelled it out quite nicely. The results are going to depend on your level of expertise and you better be top notch at everything. I'm sure there are a limited number of people using BIAB or RB to do pro recordings but there not going to give it away here if they even come here. I think once a person reaches the level of expertise to use these tools to do something really pro they won't.
Last but not least. It's a hell of a lot of fun to see just what you can do with it. I brought my lappy to a friend that has a band with a BIG sound system. It blew their minds. They are slightly above amateur and play the local clubs. My Real Band was 10 times above them.
OK PITB either lets move on productively or please just move on.
Thanks 
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To the OP,
Having read this thread a few times,plus being a noobie to BIAB,it took till now to reply.Given that you seem to be no better or worse a musician than most of us on these boards.Common sense would say try the product,if you wonder why people turn defensive?? it could be that you do seem to be knocking a product that seems to WORK for ALL that try it.If you want demos do some of your own,because BiaB /RB are only as good as the person using them.Remember that if you dont like a genre of music you may not be able to critique fairly,as you will not have listened to the genre to know anything about it,plus sound is all down to someones ear.What you may think is good someone else may dislike.At the end of the day you will or you wont buy into BiaB/RB.what you do wont influence me or anybody else,but it could help you.
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I didnt, I just agree with your sentiment. Too much time was wasted on this, yet people keep responding. you summed it up well.
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How do you know it's liked by all?
and I wasn't knocking the software. I mean people could compare two guitar amp emulators, and say "
well brand A is good for clean tones, but stinks for distortion sounds" and brand B is great for distortion but stinks for dirty sounds. And If we wrote that comparison on this board nobody would take offense to it.
But If I wrote BIAB is a great tool for songwriters and for students of music, but stinks for pro recording, I would be bashed.
Maybe it is good for creating/recording realistic tracks, but maybe it's not. no one product is all things to everyone, yet everyone here thinks it is. Thats part of it, goes back to a few posts ago, where I said I didnt know this was a buddy buddy forum, but a tech forum.
truth is, any jazz or blues type person I know has nothing but good things to say about it, or they have heard good things about it, but I dont know many recording artists who are using it. I dont know of any engineers who run a studio and use BIAB to produce tracks for clients and charge them.
So maybe it's somewhere in the middle of everything, but dont dare suggest that. Yikes
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Well your answers to my statements are in the ball park of what I said, but I was a troll for saying it.
Go figure.
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>>> Here are some demos I've done with BIAB. I always try and mix some live stuff in to make it all seem more "real".
Great demos Kevin!
Thanks, I really have enjoyed using BIAB to enhance what I could do. Just getting the bass and drums makes it all worthwhile (Ok, the guitars, pedal steel, fiddles, banjos, horns, midi stuff really helps, too -- ha, ha). Still have a long way to go on making it the best it can be, though. If I ever take the time to mix, eq and master I bet I could make it near perfect. Of course I won't -- it is always time to move onto the next song.
Thanks for a great product.
Kevin
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I dont know of any engineers who run a studio and use BIAB to produce tracks for clients and charge them.
So maybe it's somewhere in the middle of everything, but dont dare suggest that. Yikes
They exist. You just don't know about them..
I, for one, have made money with realtracks, and I know a few others personally that have also.
I prefer Realband, the companion product, to work in though. I'm guessing you would too. But the others I know prefer to use BiaB.
It's much easier to compile a track of various licks, then treat the tracks with VST FX,etc in RB (for me anyway)
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
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Well your answers to my statements are in the ball park of what I said, but I was a troll for saying it.
Go figure.
PITB, a troll is somebody whose posts to a forum are inflammatory and reaction-seeking. What makes your posts different from those of others who ask questions is that your replies often include testy little comments. Such posting is what brands somebody as a troll. If you would simply omit the self-defense part of your replies, there would be no problem. Lay your thought on the table and walk away from it and it will stand as your valid opinion. But when you keep adding self-justification comments and nose-snits, you undermine yourself.
I wish you'd just buy the software and start posting your own results so we can hear how good you really are. I think you will totally enjoy it. It can easily and quickly add the parts you don't want to play. That is basically what you want, right? It has most of the functionality of other DAW programs, plus many music automation features that aren't available elsewhere. If you liked the demos, Go for it. MANY demo songs are included, which can be edited or rearranged into new compositions. The online demos are generated directly from the demos included in the package. No special tweaking. If you tweak your songs, they can be even better. Buy the software and the rest is up to your creative ability.
I look forward to hearing your BIAB/RT generated stuff. I predict you will love it.
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