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Me, I'm still waiting for someone to show me a "Lead Guitar" hangin' on the music store rack.
I thought they was all pretty much just guitars - and I've known some cats who could play "Lead Rhythm Guitar"...
*grin*
--Mac
Back in 1978 I was involved with a Blues Band/Southern rock Band. Played a lot of Alman Brothers etc. Two drummers, Two guitars, Bass & singer. One of the guitar players was in the military and was leaving so we needed another. We auditioned this guy and he could play all the solos REAL well. Couldn't play a chord. He absolutely said he never learned.
I'm a little bit in the same boat. Been playing electric bass for 46 years and can't play guitar.
Well John if you just learn to play the C and F chords (preferably the baree type) then you can play the 3 chord trick in any key on rhythm guitar.
That’s only 2 chords to learn to whet your appetite
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Hey Mac Your "lead guitar" point is well-taken - must be the equivalent of "the tire's only flat on the bottom". Ian 
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Me, I'm still waiting for someone to show me a "Lead Guitar" hangin' on the music store rack.
I thought they was all pretty much just guitars -
Gosh, Mac, you know that comment and your attempt at using colloquial dialect in the context of BiaB and this thread makes no sense and is unnecessarily sarcastic to say the least.
You know very well, that in this context, "rhythm guitar" means the sound produced by the strumming of chords (not the guitar itself ... gee whiz) and that "lead guitar" means the sound created by the playing of a combination of single notes."
Give it a rest.
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Me, I'm still waiting for someone to show me a "Lead Guitar" hangin' on the music store rack.
I thought they was all pretty much just guitars -
Gosh, Mac, you know that comment and your attempt at using colloquial dialect in the context of BiaB and this thread makes no sense and is unnecessarily sarcastic to say the least.
You know very well, that in this context, "rhythm guitar" means the sound produced by the strumming of chords (not the guitar itself ... gee whiz) and that "lead guitar" means the sound created by the playing of a combination of single notes."
in defense of Mac, I don't think he was trying to be sarcastic. I think he was just trying to point out that the epitome of fine guitar playing often involves the use of chordal melodies (and how would you catagorize that...? rhythm or lead, since it has elements of both? As he said, it's all just guitar.)
You don't hear the use of chordal melodies much in pop music, but in jazz it has always been "the way"
This is exactly why I was careful not to misrepresent what I do, because my playing is not in the same realm as a Johnny Smith or Hank Garland (both of whom were, IMHO, masters of the chordal melody)
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I guess is that Mac was just making a funny.
HP Win 11 12 gig ram, Mac mini Sonoma with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2025, Realband, Reaper 7, Harrison Mixbus 9 32c , Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app.
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I like doing collaborations as well. I have collaborated with a few people on this forum and it is fun to do. My instrument is Piano/Keyboard/Vocals etc . . . and I use a Yamaha Tyros synth for my midi sounds. Most people usually collaborate via e-mail or pm's here on this forum. I have seen other forums do their collaboration in their forum posts. Example; I am a guitarist looking for Drums, Bass, Sax or Piano etc . . then they post an MP3 with their part recorded with some basic bed tracks. They put the song info in the post as well, Tempo, Key and a request of which measures/bars they want for a lead etc . . . The drummer d/l's the file, records his/her part and uploads their MP3 for the next musician. Most people are usually looking for a certain part they would like in their song. When you start using 3 or 4 people in a collaboration, the process takes much longer due to commitments in our daily lives, not counting a "do over." But, if you want your song polished with a killer Sax lead etc, collaborations are the way to go, IMO. They are both fun and rewarding. I like to collaborate and open to assist any way I can here. If you don't like how my part(s) come out, use that "Erase Trax" button.  Trax
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You can get a decent guitar solo out of biab soloists... However, you have to be willing to comp them... What does this mean? It means you have to generate 10 to 12 solos in biab... Just create a biab file for the number of measures for your solo... Then generate 12 versions of this...
Now export the solo to a sequencer... Let's assume the solo is 8 measures and they start at track 1 of your sequencer (cut out the count in)... Insert 12 tracks into your sequencer... Now, cut and paste each of the 8 measures into a separate track... So, in the end you wind up with 12 tracks each with a new occurrence of the 8 measure solo that you had in the long track that biab exported.
Now mute all except the first one... See what you like of that... The mute first and listen to the second one and see what you like of that... And so on for each track... By taking out the parts of the solo you don't like in each of the tracks, that makes a new part of the solo, you'll wind up with a good solo... this goes a lot quicker in practice than in actually explaining it... Anyway, It may be hard the first couple fo times, but after a while, get a good solo out of any instrument will come easy..
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Purely from a workflow point of view, you might find it easier to do many fewer than 12 variations, say 4 or so, or, if you are picky like me, do them 1 at a time. Play each solo through in BAIB and only export the individual solos or "sets" (depending on how you do it) that show promise using drag and drop to separate tracks in your sequencer. That way you avoid the high number of BAIB solos that would never be useful in any circumstances. You might be left with four or five tracks with elements you can then comp together, which is easier to manage than one linear set of 12 takes end to end on one track. In Sonar, the rest is easy, as you can just use the scissors tool (with "snap to" off) to cut the solos into phrases (or part phrases) and then the mute tool to mute those bits that you don't like. Once you have a full solo comprised of individudal phrases over the four or five tracks, you can render it to a single track and delete the dross. For 16 bars, this can take less than 5 minutes start to finish. You can also use V-Vocal (or Melodyne if you have it) to change individual notes, lengthen notes, shorten pauses etc. Piece of cake really...
Feel free to ignore all of the above.
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