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I've used BIAB for years, and I love Real Tracks, especially the "straight ahead" bluegrass styles.

One big problem: The Bluegrass Waltz RealTracks is even 8th notes, not swinging, and it is a dog. Even the example song (Nights in White Satin?) is...well, it ain't anything like bluegrass. The old midi BGWALTZ style (swinging 8ths) is perfect.

Is there any way I can change the "even" to "swinging" on my own for Real Tracks? I'm told "no" by tech support, but I also can't use this style as is and I assume other bluegrass players are in the same boat. I really want to have (and I assume other bluegrass players do also) a Real Tracks style that fits with classic bluegrass waltzes (like Kentucky Waltz, McHattie's Waltz, Cora is Gone etc.) as well as BGWALTZ does.

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The Bluegrass Waltz RealTracks is a faster style, and Even feel, so wouldn't be useful for a slow swing waltz.
Since we don't have a slow Bluegrass Waltz in RealTracks, the closest thing (other than MIDI style BGWALTZ) would be to

- use the MIDI style BGWALTZ, but replace the following 3 players: (using the RealTracks Assign dialog)

Bass track, replace MIDI with this------> 777:Bass, Acoustic, PopWaltz Ev 085 (A:simple)
Piano track, replace MIDI with this------> 824:Guitar, Acoustic, Strumming Country Waltz Sw 085
Guitar track, replace MIDI with this------> 822:Guitar, Acoustic, Fingerpicking Country Waltz Sw 085

And mute the drums.

That's a nice sounding slow swing bluegrass style, (though a MIDI mandolin and no banjo)
It sounds like this http://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/jazzu/misc/=BG_Waltz.m4a
I've uploaded the style and demo song here http://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/jazzu/misc/=bg_waltz.zip
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Peter,

Thanks for the tips. I didn't have the exact RealTracks #s you mentioned (I checked with tech support and they were not sure why), so I used the tracks I did have to set up the following:

Bass>1106
Piano>1105 @ volume 50
Guitar>1109
Strings>1144 @ volume 30

This gave me a bluegrass waltz feel and some RT sound. Is there any way I can save these settings (like a style) to apply to other songs/.sgu files, or do I have to do this for each song individually? Note: I have not looked at your style/song since they are blocked on my (work) server, so I can check them out this evening.

Any chance that you folks will re-do the Bluegrass Waltz RealTracks, or issue a new one with the correct sound and feel?

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>> Is there any way I can save these settings (like a style) to apply to other songs/.sgu files, or do I have to do this for each song individually?

Yes, you enter the StyleMaker, press the PATC button and then more, and then you can set ReaTracks #s, and Volume offsets for each track. and then save the Style.

>>Any chance that you folks will re-do the Bluegrass Waltz RealTracks, or issue a new one with the correct sound and feel?

Yes, when we make more Bluegrass RealTracks, we will do a slower tempo swing waltz RealTracks.


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