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Hi All
I haven't been here for a while and it's nice to be back!
I've been looking at the progress BIAB has made in the last 3 or 4 years, and I'm impressed!
I'll be ordering BIAB 2011 very soon!
I have a question about entering chords for an odd number of bars and getting BIAB to still play as if the following measure was the "first" bar.
The tune I'm referring to is very popular "What"s Going On", by Marvin Gaye.
The "B" Section of this tune is 10 bars long which causes the backing BIAB tracks to not play as if it's at the "beginning" upon entering the 12 Bar "C' Section.
At this point I'm 2 Bars behind the 1st measure when I approach the beginning of the song!
There must be a way to edit 2 bars out of the backing track so that when I come out of the "B" Section I'm still hearing the backround playing as if I'm at the first measure of the "C" Section.
Can anyone give me some direction on this one??
Thanks
Harpo
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I'm not following what you're describing. Try again.
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Do you know the song??
It's the classic Marvin Gaye tune, "What's Going On"
The B Section is only 10 measures long (as opposed to 12, or 16 or 4 for that matter). Since it's an odd number of bars is therre a way to get BIAB to understand this so when I get to the next section BIAB is playing as if it's on the first measure and not the 3rd measure (1st measure- 2nd- 3rd- 4th - 1st- 2nd- 3rd- 4th 1st- 2nd- now 1st 2nd 3rd 4th etc.)
Sorry this is kind of hard to discribe if you don't know the song I guess, maybe??
Harpo
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I've heard the song but I'm also not clear on what you are asking.
I think what you might be looking for is a part marker. Click on the measure number of the measure after your 10-bar section. That will place a part marker. Left-click once for blue, twice for green. A part marker causes a drum fill, and, as of about a year ago, a line break on the screen. Also a double-bar on the printed score.
If that's not it, please try again.
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OK I think I know what your after. The same as Matt stated you need part markers however you would be best to do this song as one big "chorus" chorus being a misnomer for pop songs the way PG uses it. Set the box at the top to just 1 chorus & the number of bars to anything more then what the song is. Enter your chords and for the different sections add the part marker. Typically BLUE for verses & GREEN for CHORUSES & SOLOS & INTROS etc.When the song is roughed out reset the number of bars to the actual number of bars.This should get you in the ball park.
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After thinking about this for awhile I think I might be able to be more clear by asking another question.
I first, however, want to thank you for your patience.
BIAB usually plays 4, 8 or 16 bar backround based patterns, correct?? (maybe this is where I'm having misconceptions)
Now, since this section is an odd number of bars (10) wouldn't this cause BIAB to be 2 bars behind when approaching the C Section of this song??
Hope this explains better
Harpo
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Okay Guys, I'll try that now.
Thank you both ahead of time!!
Harpo
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If it's MIDI styles, I believe there is no problem with sections of any measure count.
If it's RealTracks, those are made of recorded phrases that can be of several different lengths. I know it has been stated that some are two bars long, some four, and some eight, which would indicate that there should be no problem doing a 10-measure long section.
In addition, although I don't remember if a RealTrack phrase can be as short as one bar, it seems to work well enough when I do sections with an odd number of bars.
So - just go ahead and try it; it should work fine.
By the way, in my next concert, I will be playing Serrado by the Brazilian composer Djavan, and that song has several 10-bar sections.
Last edited by Matt Finley; 03/05/11 04:58 PM.
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Whenever you put a part marker in there, BB "starts counting" again, so it will play songs with odd-number of bars in sections OK. For example, a 7 bar section followed by a 8 bar section would be fine.
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Thanks everyone!
All your suggestions were relevant.
I haven't been using BIAB in a while, so I'm not as up to speed as I should be in regards to the specific features and ways BIAB works in certain circumstances.
This works fine!
Thanks again!!
Harpo
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