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#108718 03/18/11 12:17 PM
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Hallo zusammen ich bin neu und noch noch sehr unsicher im Umgang mit BiB. Ich habe mehrfach versucht einen Ebmaj7 Akkord einzugeben. Mit E b und j bekomme ich aber automatisch einen D#maj7. Ich würde schon gerne Eb Akkorde eingeben können.

Welche Voreinstellungen muß ich dazu vornehmen

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

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ich habe im FAQ Forum die Einstellung Optionen - Notation - Akkordskala für Enharmonik verwenden gefunden

Schreibe ich im C Kozert Modus läßt sich ein Ebmaj problemlos eintippen.

Schreibe ich aber im Eb Alt Modus für Eb Instrumente (geändert unter dem P Button) wird ein Ebmaj7 immer automatisch in einen D#maj7 überführt.

Leider nervt das sehr.

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Das sieht sehr nach einem Bug des Programms aus. Support sollte hier informiert werden, damit PG Music eine Chance erhält, das Problem mit einem Patch zu beseitigen.


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Hallo Christian,

das Problem ist die "Abkürzung" über das Übungsfenster P. Das ist wohl nur fürs schnelle Umstellen der Anzeige in Eb-Notation, aber nicht für die Eingabe. Dafür ist die Transpositionseinstellung in den Optionen für die Notation gedacht: Optionen->Voreinstellungen->Notation.
Hier den Wert "+3" Halbschritte eintragen. Dann wird ein eingetragenes Eb nicht zu D#.

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Vorab Ihr seht mich komplett überrascht, so schnell 2 Antworten auf meine Anfrage und zudem konntet Ihr aus meiner diffusen Beschreibung genau mein Problem erkennen. Dafür vorab vielen Dank.

zu Ralf

ich habe ich zu der Transponiereinstellung durchgeklickt. Dort gibt es im Dopp Down Menü die Möglichkeit sich scheins dauerhaft für AltSax +9 oder BaritonSax +21 zu entscheien. Ralf ich glaube um z.B. ein C auf dem Klavier auf dem Bariton Sax (auch Eb gestimmt) zu spielen, muß man 3 Halbtonschritte nach unten gehen. Ich meine daher, man muß entweder -3 oder +9 eintragen.

Ich habe das gemacht und im Prinzip kann ich nun zu erfundenen II-V-I Verbindungen üben, aber das Eb enharmonisch in D# Problem bleibt bei beiden Einstellungen.

Stellt man +3 ein kann man komischerweise Eb Chords eingeben, leider passen diese dann nicht mehr zum BaritonSax.

Füs üben ist es erst mal unerheblich aber einen Ebmaj7 solltem an schon in sein Notenblatt eintragen können.

Versteht der Support eigentlich deutsch. Ich habe denen das Problem auf radebrechenden Englisch geschildert, wahrscheinlich fallen die vor Lachen um.

Gruß und vielen Dank für Eure schnelle und kompetente Hilfe

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Hallo Christian,

sorry, war ein Denkfehler. Muss tatsächlich -3 statt +3 sein. Kurios ist aber, dass ausgerechnet mit der "Denkfehlereinstellung" die Eingabe korrekt ist. Mit allen anderen Transpositionen dagegen nicht. Ein Glückstreffer, der aber leider nichts bringt. Klanglich ist ja gottlob kein Unterschied zwischen Eb und D#. Trotzdem wäre hier aber eine Wahlmöglichkleit für die Notation nützlich. Im englischen Hauptforum gab es dazu auch schon Diskussionen.

Ralf

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