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Hello,

Don't know if this is the right forum for these question, but since I don't see a separate forum for the iphone app, I will post here.

I do not have an iphone nor Ipad, so can't try it out myself, but am curious. In fact, I had suggested in these forums a mobile phone version of BIAB before they came out with this, although I suggested support for all the major smartphone OSes--not only Iphone, but also Android (very major now), and Blackberry, Symbian (Nokia), Windows Mobile (which I have), and the newer Windows Phone 7.) (I would still suggest that the mobile app be ported to more smartphone OSes in the future. Not good to be limited to only one.)

I was amazed to read that it uses RealTracks and RealDrums. These phones, as advanced as they have become, do not have the storage and processing power to deal with RTs and RDs.

Now, from reading something on this site, I think it may go something like this. No RTs and RDs are stored on the phone, and the phone does not process them. It basically sends a request over the Internet to one's home computer with BIAB installed, and the home computer creates the BIAB song with the RTs and RDs on its hard drive, exports it to .wav, compresses that to an .m4a file, and sends that compressed audio file of the song over the Internet to the phone. Is that a correct description of how it works?

I think a lot of things could go wrong with that scenario. What if one wants to work on a song in BIYP (Band-in-your-pocket ;-) ), but has no Internet connection? What if one forgot to leave the home computer turned on, with BIAB running, and the internet working? (I assume too, that one has to have some kind of background process running on the desktop all the time, to catch the requests from the Iphone BIAB.) (There are a lot of situations in which one might not have Internet access-riding the subway, or airplane, in a foreign country, no data signal nor wi-fi, etc.,etc. The app should not be Internet-dependent.)

I think it would be good to have at least as an alternative, a self-sufficient BIAB mobile app, not requiring that the work be done by the home computer. Of course, as stated, this would not work with RDs and RTs. It would have to be just MIDI. My HTC HD2 (Windows Mobile 6.5) smartphone has a built-in GM synth which is not bad, and I assume others do as well. (If not, BIYP could come with its own.) Most smartphones today certainly have the power and storage to deal with a MIDI-only BIAB. (The desktop computers when BIAB began, were MUCH less powerful than the smartphones of today.)

That would be a self-sufficient mobile BIAB app, not requiring connection with one's home computer. Of course, when one gets home, one could then transfer the created song to the desktop computer, and on the desktop change the styles to RT ones, if one wishes to do so.

Any chance of that happening in the future, including support for more mobile OSes?

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"We're looking for current users of Band-in-a-Box 2011 for Windows to help us test our Band-in-a-Box app for Android."


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I have an iPhone and an iPad, and in playing with the phone in the 4 years I have been using one I have discovered that if you configure it correctly you can also use it to make phone calls....

WHO wants to sit and tap on a 2x3 inch screen to write music? Don't you want to be near instruments when you are writing? Granted the iPhone can do a lot of stuff, but time and place, ya know?

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Granted that it is better to write on a computer. However, if o9ne gets an idea while riding the subway, it could be handy to do something on your phone.

Matt-good that they are expanding the mobile idea to Android. I hope they continue to other mobile OSes as well.

However, I still think it would be much better to have a fully self-sufficient posket BIAB (which would have to be all-MIDI, than the current Iphone app, which depends on a network connection to one's desktop computer.

Who agrees? Make the mobile app self-sufficient!

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I'm quite satisfied with the current solution: Utilize the full power/storage of my desktop when creating/renderings songs, while still being able to bring the songs to training sessions in my pocket. I really enjoy the mobility it gives me!

Just my 2 cents.

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FYI, this was just posted yesterday by PG Music:

"We're looking for current users of Band-in-a-Box 2011 for Windows to help us test our Band-in-a-Box app for Android."







Where? Link?

I'd volunteer to try BiaB on my Android phone.

Never mind. Found it. subject could have been a little more specific than "Beta Testers Wanted."

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I know eh? Should have asked for alpha testers first.

After this it's Charlie testers. A B C. Sounds like Motown to me.


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I meant something more specific like "Android Version of Band in a Box Testers Wanted."

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