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Here's a jingle for a local car dealer. All BIAB/RB. This is one fun program!



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just want to say I like this and all the other tracks and you've got soul in your voice.thanks for the listen Frankie


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Thanks for the kind words Frankie. I know posting a jingle is a bit weird, but I'm having so much fun with BIAB I couldn't resist.

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Hi Bob,

A great jingle. Totally professional on all fronts. You're making BIAB, RB and yourself sound awesome!

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Great Job ! Nice Vocals !

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Thanks Noel and Tommy. The spot aired last night, and it sounded OK, but I'm doing a re-mix to bring the vocal up a bit. The radio station really squashes the signal, and the track loses a lot of dynamics.

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Some software I have has a radio comp preset ,I'll see if I can find the settings maybe you can duplicate so it might slide through with out the need for it to change . For years I made a 30 min radio show of an Oprey House and as soon as I discovered the comp preset they never messed with it again . I'm not sure but I think a comp at the station does this to all music it deems below a certain level .It was the worst job ever , took 50 to 60 hrs of cut and paste to make their band radio worthy . The drummer never played till about the 3rd beat even though he counted it off ! I had to find a good turn-around to make a beginning with every time . And the singers were pitch shifted every few notes . It was a 2 hr. show but I had to include a bunch of the MC's jokes and local commercials just to squeeze out 30 minutes .

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I think this was the comp settings ( Output gain 0 soft knee Attack time 8.7 release time ms 463.0 comp ratio 11.9:1 comp thresh hold -5.2 ) I did this back in 99 thru 04 don't know if it's still a good setting for radio comp ,but maybe it might be a starting point. Use to wonder why they did it ,but the station was all computer run and I only got to speak to comp operator who knew nothing about any details of the operations .

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I think this was the comp settings ( Output gain 0 soft knee Attack time 8.7 release time ms 463.0 comp ratio 11.9:1 comp thresh hold -5.2 ) I did this back in 99 thru 04 don't know if it's still a good setting for radio comp ,but maybe it might be a starting point. Use to wonder why they did it ,but the station was all computer run and I only got to speak to comp operator who knew nothing about any details of the operations .






Thanks a million Tommy! I'm using Sonar Producer 8.5.3, and I will try those settings. Sounds like a real nightmare you had going there. Makes me glad I'm only doing these dinky little jingles!

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Thanks Noel and Tommy. The spot aired last night, and it sounded OK, but I'm doing a re-mix to bring the vocal up a bit. The radio station really squashes the signal, and the track loses a lot of dynamics.



Is this an AM station, or an FM station? If it's a mono station, check the mix in mono. I would advise against applying any 'radio station compression' preset on a comp. That's a recipie for disaster. If you heard the spot and need to bring the vocal up, do a remix. But avoid applying heavy master buss compression and/or limiting. That's what the station is doing and having it applied twice- once from you and once from them- will be terrible. Good luck.

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Thanks Noel and Tommy. The spot aired last night, and it sounded OK, but I'm doing a re-mix to bring the vocal up a bit. The radio station really squashes the signal, and the track loses a lot of dynamics.



Is this an AM station, or an FM station? If it's a mono station, check the mix in mono. I would advise against applying any 'radio station compression' preset on a comp. That's a recipie for disaster. If you heard the spot and need to bring the vocal up, do a remix. But avoid applying heavy master buss compression and/or limiting. That's what the station is doing and having it applied twice- once from you and once from them- will be terrible. Good luck.

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Thanks Dan. I'm aware of station compression, and I still have a nice spiky signal with plenty of dynamics. It's an FM Stereo station (but I always check mixes in Mono anyway). I did a remix with the vocal up a bit. I don't have any mastering plugs like Ozone, so I have to get as much bang for my buck that Sonar can provide.




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I had to chuckle Bob, it was a fun jingle. Plus i just realized that my brother and his wife live in greer. Nice area, i was back there last year for a bit and really enjoyed the visit.


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Glad you enjoyed the jingle Rob. I remixed it and added a bit at the end.


http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?q=hi&songID=10775442



We really love Greer as well. After 25 years in Florida (God's Waiting Room), it's nice to be in the Blue Ridge again.


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That sounds good. So, you did the whole thing in BIAB and Real Band? What type of mic did you use for your vocals?

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Yes. BIAB/RB/Sonar 8.5.3. Vocal mic used was a Studio Projects T3 tube.



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