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I´m studying BIAB for a few months, and 2/4 time - very common in Brazilian music - is a mistery to me. I´m trying to write "samba" and it sounds like bossa-nova I´ve tried this experiment, creating a style from midi: - drums from a midi file, trying to play like a "pandeiro" - guitar at first from a midi file, then replacing it with RT Guitar nylon bossa (1103) As writing the song: - wrote at least two chords per bar (inserting two 2/4 bars in a 4/4 bar) - set RT instruments to double time (otherwise they wouldn´t match drums time) - soloist: RT 1374 The resulta was: http://www.box.net/shared/eghr7ttys1075u52avcvI would appreciate your comments/hints on this. Thanks a lot.
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Hello Ivan. I don't know if I have the answer, because I write jazz sambas not 'traditional' samba, but here are a couple of reactions.
Your song tempo seems quite slow, requiring you to double-time some parts as you say. What is the temp set to?
I use cut time to notate my sambas, rather than 4/4, because it seems to fit BIAB better. For a cut-time samba, write it in fast 4/4 and force the RealTracks patterns in 8 rather than 16. Thus I use tempos like 220 when I really want 110.
As I'm sure you know, cut time looks like 4/4 but is counted - felt - in 2/2. You count off the chart as 1,2; 1,2 rather than 1,2; 1, 2, 3, 4.
BIAB has some nice traditional samba RealTrack instruments for acoustic bass and acoustic piano at a 'home' tempo of 190. The RealDrums for samba are widely adaptable to a range of tempos. Guitar, though, is a problem. The really good nylon guitar is a Bossa guitar at 140. While it is remarkably expandable to other tempos, it doesn't have the feel we need for samba at high tempos in BIAB. I have put a request into the Styles Wishlist forum to see if PG Music could make a nylon guitar at 190 to match the other samba instruments at 190.
Does that help?
ps I noticed you asked about the manual being available in Portuguese. Did that get answered?
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Hello, Matt
Thanks for your "instant" reply.
In my song, tempo is set to 75. I´m aware of cut time and also use the 220/110 tempo approach you mention. As you also point, Bossa guitar feel does not suit samba - hope PG Music give an fast answer to your request.
Regarding portuguese manual I also had an "instant" reply as I asked for it in "live help" - I can´t remember the name of the person who answered but in one minute he posted a link to a file for converting my whole sofware to Portuguese - not only the manual - that was very nice!
Well, your answer helped a lot. Thank you so much!
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You're welcome. And let's stay on top of this. You could go to my Styles Wishlist entry and give it a +1.
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Have you tried typing in Samba or 2/4 in the style picker and narrowing down the style list with the filter? It will read 4/4 but should play like a 4/4 style.
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