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#123944 08/02/11 07:46 AM
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Hi!

I would strongly vote for a ritardando/accelerando function. Oftentimes I want the tempo of a song to gradually in- or decrease. To change the tempo at every bar is only a rough workaround, I find...

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Has been requested many times by me and many other BIAB users in this forum.
That is the proof that it becomes urgent for BIAB to implement fundamental professional features of music performance.


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I used to never do that in BIAB, but export the MID, import it into Sonar, and do the ritardando there.

I think that is more problematic with RealTracks though. For what you export and import with a Real Track there is audio, not midi.

Certainly there are tools in Sonar and other DAWs to stretch time without changing pitch, etc. Doesn't always work well though, especially if it is a major tempo change.

Stretching Real Tracks would I assume work better in BIAB, as it has time-stretching feature made especially for the Real Tracks.

So yes, now with RT, I think BIAB should include that capability. And changing only at the beginning of each measure does not cut it.

How about RealBand? Does it stretch the RTs well enough to do accelerando and ritardando with it?

In Sonar there are various ways to do a ritardando, including drawing the tempo map, etc. They way I always found easiest (for MIDI only though) is the command "insert series of tempos". You specify the beginning time of the ritardando, and what the beginning tempo should be there. Then you specify the end time of the ritardando, and what the tempo should be there. You also specify whether you want the tempo changes to occur every beat or every half beat. Click OK and it figures out all the tempo changes necessary.

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Follow-up.

I tried it. I opened up the BIAB file, in which I wanted to add a ritardando, in RealBand.

RealBand has a feature similar to what I described in Sonar, called "fill..", to set a beginning and ending time, and beginning and ending tempo, and it fills in a series of tempo changes. I didn't know, however, if that would only work on MIDI tracks, or on Real Tracks as well.

Well, it does work on RealTracks, but not well. Yes, it slowed the tempo down the way I specified. But the sound became very bad, with strange noise added, etc. So even the new time-stretching engine doesn't do that well. Hopefully it will be improved in the future. Of course that might also depend on the real tracks being stretched, and also the amount of ritardando or accelerando. It may work OK for a small change in tempo, don't know. (Mine was a large change, to about half the original tempo.)

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