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Although I have already ordered the MAC version (I haven't received it yet), I am curious if there is anything posted about what the differences are between the 2 versions. I know the MAC is lacking some features but I'd like to see what they are.
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Dave
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Any takers...how about PG, do you have anything posted?
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Dave
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Hi Dave,
Main difference is that the Mac version lacks:
1. Leadsheet Window
2. Audio track
The Mac version has some features that the Windows one doesn't, such as better "low latency" audio support (no need to use ASIO drivers, as latency is low with the native drivers). Also simpler MIDI hookup, using built in Apple DLS synth.
Have Fun!
Peter Gannon
PG Music Inc.
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Piano roll editor ( for editing the melody graphically ) and the conductor window are missing.
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I suppose it’s true that Apple’s DLS synth can simplify MIDI hookup, but many would say the quality of Apple’s DLS sounds leaves a lot to be desired, and that better software synths are available on the PC -- that, of course, isn’t PG Music’s fault. But the Mac version of BIAB does make it possible to simultaneously route different BIAB parts to several different synths, using Apple’s Core Midi -- which helps if you’ve got a nice sounding piano module, but another synth has better guitar or drum sounds. I was always bewildered that I couldn’t seem to do that in the PC version.
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I thought I'd add a few differences I found between Mac and PC versions (I figured it would be nice to have all the differences in one place). Apparently, the mac version can't yet automatically transpose at the end of each chorus... http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/showflat.p...amp;Search=trueNo Note based lyrics for the Mac version yet... http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=331212&an=0&page=6I hope that when the lead sheet function is added that Note Based Lyrics would be added along with it. Also, I hope the 2nd endings, etc. come with the addition of leadsheat functionality. The drag and drop audio feature to GarageBand is a pretty cool feature for the MAC, though. Cheers, Tim.
Last edited by ewitim; 01/30/12 02:16 PM.
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No Tabs in the Mac version either ..
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and no scrolling function for auditioning through bar(s)
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I've been eying BIAB for quite a while to buy it, but until the mac version has some of those key features mentioned, I will keep waiting.
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You might have to wait a long time. Most of these have been requested for years, but pgmusic seems to have its own ideas on what Mac users need/want, regardless of what we say.
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seems like the brothers Gannon are Mac haters-I do not have any other explanation.And if they don't make Mac version like PC,I'll want my money back-for sure!!!
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No big piano display. Karaoke?
No keyboard editing of notes with arrow keys.
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Some parts of the software WILL NOT compile on a Mac. There is no way to do that, short of a complete rewrite in a new language. Mac/Apple/Jobs...they just never did develop a compiler that would work, and didn't think it mattered.
That is not something that is complicated to understand.
Due to legacy code issues on the PC platform, code developed LONG AGO, still has compilers and will still run.
Then again, it's normal to see about a thousand posts in the PC forums and only 10 or so here in the same time.
I have an ipad, and am taking delivery of a 2200 buck US Apple computer soon. But I have a PC or two, and run Band in a Box on that. Given I spent 25,000 bucks on my first computer for my business (Unix), and I had only 4 8 inch floppies, no hard drive, the fact that you can get a pretty good PC to run band in a box for 400 bucks should be a bargain. Do every thing else on the Mac. To me that's a no brainer. I've spent 400 bucks on a pre amp. I couldn't even hear the difference though my mic.
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''Then again, it's normal to see about a thousand posts in the PC forums and only 10 or so here in the same time.''
maybe here lies the sad story about Mac BiB...the rest is simply nonsense!!!
But then again-maybe that's why people do not want to spend their money,buying software that is not up to the expectations...
bear in mind that we do not pay less for the program,lacking many of the PC futures...
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Your staunch defence of PG Music continues to amaze me.
Are you suggesting that (a) the code for BIAB is so old that parts will not compile on a Mac? Seriously? So re-write the damn things in Mac code - if others can do it, especially for a potentially big market, and growing, then PG Music should be able to do it. After all - they've got 90% of the program running on the Mac - and that runs very nicely. They can do it.
And as for suggesting that people go out and buy a PC to run BIAB while doing the rest of their work on a Mac - I'd suggest you get back in the real world. That is NOT a fix for what is a glaring set of omissions from the Mac version.
Nope - there is a problem, real not imagined, whereby the Mac version is lacking numerous features that the Windows version has. My own main interest would be in the lead sheet and notation department.
The solution to the problem is to fix it, whether it's a rewrite of sections, or a re-compile, or whatever. The solution is NOT to go out and buy another computer just to run BIAB.
I haven't heard such a silly suggestion for a long time!
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Everyone says I'm not buying it, and I'm sending it back, and I hate it, and it's not Mac like.
Pfft.
According to you, DR. Gannon is robbing you blind.
I heard Mac/Apple did that to them.
Of course all of us can change if we try. But if you can't find compilers, why would you rewrite the code?
Can you code in Turbo-Pascal? (I think that is it, maybe lisp too.) Might just be plain ol' pascal for all I know.
Of course you can. And you are a doctor too, maybe you should phone Dr. Gannon up and point him in the right direction. Poor man.
Part of the problem may lie in the Canadian angle. It's hard to program when you have to play God save the Queen between compiles.
You may be onto something though. Hate is illegal in Canada. Perhaps, as you allege, this is a hate crime. Calling Dudley Doo-right.
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if you can not deliver,then do NOT do it!!!Mac users are NOT second degree users!!!We,as users ,have the same rights and demands as PC users-it is just a choice of software platform.After suffering many years with crashings,viruses and other bugs,you are not going to convinced me to buy PC just to run BIB...BIB is NOT a professional program-it is a good toy for learning and practicing.Maybe that's why is PC popular...but it does not mean we have to get second grade product for the same money
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if you can not deliver,then do NOT do it!!!Mac users are NOT second degree users!!!
I suspect if they didn't deliver [a Mac version], you would be complaining about why there isn't a Mac version, at which point you would be in worse case 'cause you wouldn't have anything.
Anyway, my understanding (and I'm just speculating here) is that there are two different code bases and as such two different products (that do very similar things). It would be nice if it were a common code base and they could just cross-compile. But, as two separate products, they are free to market and sell it as it is for what they ask. If you don't like it, don't buy it. If you want new features, suggest them. But suggestions aren't the same as threatening them, as I've seen both here and the PC forum: "If you don't do this for me, then your product stinks and I'll never buy the product again." (and that's the polite language version)
If you don't like it for what it is or if it doesn't meet your needs, then just get your money back and go find another product that does. I mean, there's a lot of products in this technology space, right?  No one's forcing you to waste your money. Try getting your money back from Microsoft, if you didn't like one of their products.
But, if I were a betting man, I bet most folks make a copy of it before they sent it back. And then still complain. Just sayin'...
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