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Hello.
I wonder if someone knows how to synchronize these two programs (Cubase and Band in a box)
Thank you.
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Hi BIAB,
Welcome to the forums.
When you say "synchronize", what are you aiming to do with BIAB and Cubase? For example, are you asking about how to transfer BIAB tracks to Cubase or are you trying to play BIAB from Cubase, etc.
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Last edited by Noel96; 12/28/11 11:41 AM.
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BIAB, Real Band, and Power Tracks do not incorporate Rewire, so it isn't possible to sync them with Cubase or other programs which do. I'm told it is being looked at.
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Thanks for responding.
What I want is to sync via midi cubase and band in a box.
So, when I press play on BB, also cubase is started.
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Excuse my English, I am using a translator online and do not always translate well.
I need to sync via midi band in a box and cubase.
I hope you understand me.
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It would make more sense to me to just export the MIDI data to cubase. There really isn't any good reason to run to the two programs in sync that I can see.
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You might want to try the LoopBe1 MIDI driver. This acts like a virtual MIDI cable between different MIDI applications (e.g. MIDI-OUT in Band-in-a-Box --- MIDI-IN in Cubase). You can download it free from here: http://www.nerds.de/en/loopbe1.html
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I seem to learn 10 new things every day on these forums! This sounds interesting.
Thanks, Blake.
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Hello, Sync capability generally means a particular software has the capability to send and/or receive MIDI Time Code (MTC) and/or SMPTE time code. At the moment, BIAB or Real Band is not capable of sending or receiving MTC or SMPTE time code. It is the only software in my studio that is not capable to sync to anything. This is the main reason studios won't use BIAB. I digitally transfer all my BIAB output to a DAW. Instrument tracks in mono, mostly and Real Drums in stereo. All my processing and mixing is done on the DAW. Since BIAB is not able to sync to my DAW, when I transfer I use the count-in stick hits to visually line up the tracks in the DAW. You will need to record at least the first stick hit with every instrument. I just finished a CD for a client with 9 BIAB songs. This method allows me to have more than a 5 piece band in my backing track. If BIAB becomes MTC capable, it will save me a lot of time . . . and a lot of $$ for my client. I'm not a software tech, so I can not understand why its so difficult to make BIAB sync capable  I'm probably one of the very few commercial studio owners using BIAB professionally. No MTC on BIAB really sucks for me. Ed
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Gee, how often does it need to be pointed out, the software isn't supposed to do what you want. For that you can have upteen other programs.
The fact that PG music ever made a product, like Powertracks then RealBand, is a testament to trying to give a simple DAW at a time when there was almost nothing.
I'm glad your Garageband talks to all your other software DAW stuff. That's an accomplishment.
BTW, IF they sync their own software to Band in a Box, that might be good. Go ask Pro Tools. Last heard everyone agreed that was the industry standard, get a studio to sign you and out comes Pro Tools. We, the fools, use Band in a Box and Audacity, maybe Powertracks or even RealBand.
But we all know deep down you need studio musicians and then it's out of your hands.
Unless Justin Beeber at 11 is your neighbour.
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ProducerYoda, RB, and BiaB allow Drag and drop, with for me works very nicely in Sonar, Reaper, and Multitracksudio. Just click the DAW button and either of the programs will change to a smaller window, and you can drag the tracks over one at a time, all together or to a folder on desktop and move from there. They should line up, they do here for me.
What program do you move them to?
BiaB you can export the file from Band in a Box as a midi or midi with audio, and open that in cubase. Until BiaB develops Rewire that will be the way.
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Producer Yoda needs to look at the Options - Sync Source in Realband before stating Quote:
At the moment, BIAB or Real Band is not capable of sending or receiving MTC or SMPTE time code
RB offers both MTC and SMPTE time codes..
BiaB not so much.
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Hi Guys,
don't know anything about cubase,
but I've got BIAB synced to my PA3X keyboard.
ie I press play on BIAB it starts the keyboard & provides the left hand chords changes for it.
May not be what you're after. Haven't tried syncing it to a sequencer though.
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Hi BIAB, (Who would of thought that username was avaiable?)
Yes, as Blake mentioned LoopBe30 works OK.
You have to set it up as your midi output driver in Band in a Box.
Turn off use DXI Synth.
Set LoopBe30 as your midi input for your tracks in Cubase
Then use the Input Transformer in Cubase to filter out the other midi channels (ie Filter out ch 2 for Bass
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ProducerYoda, RB, and BiaB allow Drag and drop, with for me works very nicely in Sonar, Reaper, and Multitracksudio. Just click the DAW button and either of the programs will change to a smaller window, and you can drag the tracks over one at a time, all together or to a folder on desktop and move from there. They should line up, they do here for me.
I read about this feature in the BIAB manual and I'm trying to get it to work with Reaper, but no luck. I've got ASIO drivers loaded. When dragging I just get the "prohibited" circle with line thru it when I hover over any Reaper track. I also tried the "drop" function that generates the tracks, and BIAB creates them and puts them into the DRAG folder but again it won't drag from that button to Reaper. Is there some BIAB VST dll that I need to load into Reaper to get this to work?
Thanks for any suggestions...
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ProducerYoda, RB, and BiaB allow Drag and drop, with for me works very nicely in Sonar, Reaper, and Multitracksudio. Just click the DAW button and either of the programs will change to a smaller window, and you can drag the tracks over one at a time, all together or to a folder on desktop and move from there. They should line up, they do here for me.
I read about this feature in the BIAB manual and I'm trying to get it to work with Reaper, but no luck. I've got ASIO drivers loaded. When dragging I just get the "prohibited" circle with line thru it when I hover over any Reaper track. I also tried the "drop" function that generates the tracks, and BIAB creates them and puts them into the DRAG folder but again it won't drag from that button to Reaper. Is there some BIAB VST dll that I need to load into Reaper to get this to work?
Thanks for any suggestions...
Answering my own question...I had to run BIAB as an administrator to get it to work. Good old Vista. That seems to be the answer to almost all my music software issues.
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Robh, My DAW is a "stand-alone" DAW workstation, its the Roland VS2480 (I have 3 of them). I don't do any transfers from one software to another within the computer. Back when BIAB was MIDI only, I use to export as MIDI file into Sonar. In Sonar, I would "groove quantize" all the tracks then play the tracks through a sound module and record its output digitally into the Roland DAW. Still, it was 2 tracks at a time (L & R of stereo digital out). 99.9% of BIAB use today are Real Tracks, but the amount of time required to transfer digital tracks into my Roland DAW is still about the same. With all MIDI I don't have to sync my tracks in the DAW but I still have to "groove quantize" my tracks. With Real Tracks, I don't have to "groove quantize" but I still have to visually sync my tracks. Sync capability will eliminate the need to visually sync my tracks. Biggest advantage for me is to be able listen to additional instruments beyond the 5 part. I just have to change an instrument, solo it, them press "play" on the DAW and BIAB will play the new instrument to audition it. This will be very helpful when I am trying to comp a solo part . . . IF BIAB was sync capable. Once BIAB becomes sync capable . . . the next step is for BIAB to become a VST "plug-in" for other Windows based DAW. Wouldn't that be nice ??  Ed
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Once BIAB becomes sync capable . . . the next step is for BIAB to become a VST "plug-in" for other Windows based DAW. Wouldn't that be nice ??
+1. I have become used to export files from BIAB to my DAW, wich is great, but having the possibility of sync both programs (or using BIAB as a plugin within my DAW) would allow to easily hear BIAB tracks "in context", and would be still better.
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Hi Guys,
I must hav e the wrong idea about what the term Sync means?
I have my BIAB midied to my arranger keyboard.
My Keyboard is set to external midi. When I press play in BIAB, my keyboard starts playing a style & BIAB sends out the chord changes for my keyboard ie I can literally have BIAB play Real Drums, whilst my keyboard plays the bass, guitar piano, whatever.
Next I tried miding BIAB with my old XG Works sequencer.
I set the sequencer to external midi, pressed play in BIAB. Again BIAB played Real Track Drums whist the sequencer played the midifile I had loaded in ( minus drums).
I always thought that that was what syncing was, but obviously there's more to it.
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