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i DON'T KNOW, BUT I'm sure the VSC-DXI SOUND SYTHN THATS WORKS IN Windows Vista is a Roland creation. I have BIAB 2012 installed on my old PC using Windows Vista. I have heard Roland synths won't work in Windows 7? Does that mean just the Roland VSC or the Roland VSC-DXI as well?? This is confusing? Roland sythns are the only good sythns that give you a clear guitar sound. The MS GS wavetable sounds bad. So do ANY of the synths work clearly in Windows 7 for midi output. BTW, I couldn't even get the Coyote forte to work.So thats a junk sythn as well as MS GS wavetable. If you guys know of a sythn that will palback clearly in Windows 7,let this BIAB user know please.Thanks
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The VSC/DXi will work in 32-bit operating systems but no 64-bit ones. I suspect that you version of Vista is 32-bits and your version of Win 7 is 64-bit.
I'm surprised that you cannot get Coyote Forte to work as that functions on 32-bit as well 64-bit operating systems. Cakewalk's TTS-1 also works on both types of system.
How did you set up Forte? Did you download the latest version from PG Music?
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There are 2 coyote synth versions that work in Windows 7. I have windows 7 / 64, and am a senior citizen, deaf, and have cataracts. I was just a firefighter in real life but without the help of my kids I can get both of them to work just fine. Of course I am also civil and that means I can get help here if I need it. Perhaps it's because the software is Canadian and so am I so it's an some evil thing.  Of course it could be the cold has made us a smarter race I'm thinking of moving North even more, Glow-ball warming 'might' be coming.
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Noel and John
The Coyote WT I tried to get to work was in the new BIAB 2012 mega upgrade pacckage I got from PG music. I simply clicked on the VST-DXI box in the midi options and a new window appeareed.I selected Coyote and then closed out the window and also closed out my midi options window. Nothing changed at all.Coyote Forte doesn't work period. Because I have Windows Vista I swithed back to VSC-DXI and that works great. You fellas said VSC-DXI will work in Windows 7 in a 32 bit system. That gives me some hope if this old Pc dies. Thanks for your imput.BTW, what midi output sythn are you guys using?
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Ketron SD2.
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roland vsc-dxi on one old computer.
I have never had a problem with Coyote, and Norm, the creator, hangs out here off and on.
The first thing most guys will tell you is to open your audio devices gizmo, and find the midi and other volumes, and turn them all the way up. Just remember that when you put on headphones for youtube. Eardrums can break.
Many a time there is a setting inside the dxi where you find sliders. Vista was notorious for resetting the volumes all to zero, and no reason I ever found solved it. You just figured it out one day, jacked them all back up and it worked for months.
John Conley
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I'm surprised you couldn't get Coyote to work.
I'm sure you realize it, but there are two different Coyote products. BIAB should automatically install the Coyote WT (WaveTable), which is just a DXi wrapper for the sounds Microsoft provides with your OS), so it sounds the same as the MS GS synth (but allows you to use it as if it were a DXi synth).
There is also the Coyote Forte, which comes as a 30-day trial. The clock starts ticking as soon as you install it. At the end of 30 days, you need to buy a $40 license key to keep using it. There are lots of folks here on the forum that use it all the time in various Windows installations, so I wouldn't say its a junk synth. I've used it on Windows XP, Windows Vista 32-bit, Windows 7 32-bit, and Windows 7 64-bit, on three different computers with different motherboards and different soundcards, so I know it works.
Make sure it is installed (there is an installer on the disk or drive you received from PGMusic). Once installed, you should be able to select it as your default synth. You might need to rescan your DX plugins to make sure it shows up. Also, you need to reboot after installing it. (What?!? Reboot?!? I never reboot; you shouldn't have to reboot. I'd rather spend 2 weeks on the forum figuring out how to make it work without rebooting than spend two minutes rebooting the computer - sorry, rant over, but I've heard that too much). I know that when I didn't reboot, Forte did not work properly until I did.
Something is amiss if it's not working for you, but Forte went through extensive testing an lots of folks are using it successfully. If there truly is a bug, I bet Norm from Coyote (he's the Peter Gannon of Coyote) will help you work through it. I know that's happened in the past.
Let us know, so we can help you figure it out.
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