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I'm putting this in a separate post so that we can centralize all the info about the BIAB Amplitube Presets. During the last beta, I did not reinstall Amplitube -- I already had AT3.7. When the version of BIAB with Amplitube presets came out, those presets showed up in AT3 automatically, and I was ready to go. (I'm currently using default install locations for both BIAB and AT3.) There are currently several threads noting problems with AT3 presets not showing up in BIAB. A number of them have found the .tgs files. But here's the Real Big Thing that a number of people seem to have missed (and I only found it myself by searching my hard drive with Everything): The .tgs files in C:\bb\DX Settings\Amplitube are not the presets.The presets are in C:\\Users\{user}\Documents\IK Multimedia\Amplitube 3\presets\Band-In-A-Box (or your system's equivalent). Or at least they should be. The presets are .at3p files, so searching for ".at3p" on your system should track 'em down. Then you can copy them to the folder above. And we'll see if that works. I do not know the purpose of the .tgs files, although my brain wants to say "the guitar shop". If Peter or someone could elucidate, and help us figure out what's supposed to be installed where...?
Best, Tom SmithWin10/64 • i7-8700K • 24 GB RAM BIAB 2026 • Reaper 7.57 • Izotope MPS AKG C1000S • IK iRig I/O Pro
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Hi Tom,
There are 2 types of presets:
1. TGS files. These are PG music files that you can make. They save all of the presets for a given track. So, if you add effects to a guitar track, you can save these effects "Save Group" button in the Effects Window. You can also have a style use that .tgs file. So that's how we make styles that use AmpliTube in a certain way.
2. the .at3p files. These are AmpliTube format presets. They show up in the AmpliTube window, in the presets section. You can choose them within AmpliTube, and when you do the BB song will get saved with the settings, so you don't have to revisit it next time.
Have Fun!
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Aha! Many thanks, Peter. Now, if we can only figure out why some people can't find the presets at all....
Best, Tom SmithWin10/64 • i7-8700K • 24 GB RAM BIAB 2026 • Reaper 7.57 • Izotope MPS AKG C1000S • IK iRig I/O Pro
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Hi, The presets should have been installed with Band-in-a-Box. If you don't have them for whatever reason, install the latest update patch ( build 349 ) - we've added the presets to it. Also, there's now a small file that you can download from this page, that has all the AmpliTube related files: http://www.pgmusic.com/amplitube-demos.htm[Download AmpliTube styles, demos, and presets] This requires version 2012. For reference, the AmpliTube presets (at3p files) are installed to your My Documents folder Windows XP: C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\My Documents\IK Multimedia\Amplitube 3\Presets\ Windows Vista/7: C:\users\<username>\My Documents\IK Multimedia\Amplitube 3\Presets\
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There are 2 types of presets:
1. TGS files. These are PG music files that you can make. They save all of the presets for a given track. So, if you add effects to a guitar track, you can save these effects "Save Group" button in the Effects Window. You can also have a style use that .tgs file. So that's how we make styles that use AmpliTube in a certain way.
2. the .at3p files. These are AmpliTube format presets. They show up in the AmpliTube window, in the presets section. You can choose them within AmpliTube, and when you do the BB song will get saved with the settings, so you don't have to revisit it next time.
I notice that in the Amplitube preset BIAB subdirectory there is a .at3p file with the same name as each of the .tgs files. If we create and save a preset (which presumably goes to .tgs format) does it automatically show up in the PRESETS/BIAB directory as an at3p preset? If not:
1) is there a way to convert it to at3p format or
2) is there a way to directly load .tgs files?
(when I click LOAD BANK the file mask will not allow the tgs files to be seen eve if I navigate to that directory)
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Hello:
I'm trying to figure out why I keep getting this Amplitube message error: The current preset uses models which are not installed. The missing models will not be loaded; therefore the preset may not sound as intended.
The product is registered correctly.
I can rifle through the presets in the GUI, but I'm not getting the percieved/expected results.
I must be missing something?
I looked and found a slew of Amplitube stuff in my Documents File; Models, Patches, Presets (why it is there I have no clue).
Further, within the Program Files location there seems to be some pretty hefty PAK and VPA files (150 and 20 Meg respectively).
So, it seems the data is there...but my interface doesn't seem to access them as I would expect.
I hope someone can help, I thought all of this would be transparent...maybe I have to import or shuffle some files around?
Thank you in advance for any insight!
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Eric
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Hello:
I'm trying to figure out why I keep getting this Amplitube message error: The current preset uses models which are not installed. The missing models will not be loaded; therefore the preset may not sound as intended.
Amplitube comes in various versions. The version that comes with BIAB includes a small subset of what's available. Even the full blown Amplitube 3 does not contain all the gear, because they separated out the most popular Fender and Ampeg gear as separate products.
If you went to the IKMultimedia site and downloaded presets, it is inevitable that some of those presets are trying to access gear you don't have. In order for all the presets to work, you'd need to buy Amplitube 3, plus the Fender and Ampeg versions and maybe even the Jimi Hendrix collection.
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Thanks Pat,
I did not download anything from IK, rather I simply installed the program as it was included in a BIAB 2012 EverythingPAK.
Thanks for the speedy reply!
I'm still in the dark though.
How am I to know what subsets are accessable?
Plow through the 999 and see what errors and what doesn't?
It seems that "something" should work (preset-wise that is).
Frustrated!
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OK, if you are using the free version that came bundled with BIAB,the only presets that won't generate that error are the ones in the folders AMPLITUBE FREE and BAND IN A BOX
All the other folders contain presets that require gear from other add-ons that you don't have yet.
I bought the full blown AT3 thinking I'd have all the gear and wouldn't get that message anymore, but nope. There's still a lot of stuff I don't have, therefore I still get the same error any time I select a preset from one of the other sets.
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Ok...I see the Amplitube Free (and its associated patches) tab...however, I do not see the Band in a Box presets...which should be there...but are not.
Hmmm...
Well, I am examining the stand alone version while doing this.
Maybe if I launch it within BB as a plugin, that menu might appear?
Thanks again!
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Thank you Pat...I just did the linked instal and will check the results soon! For now, I must be off. Thank you again sir  Eric
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be aware that there is a newer version available that you may want to install over that one... I sent the older link because it should give you the BIAB presets
If you install the newer version later, when it asks if you want to overwrite the presets, so NO
(or back them up first)
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update: I had several additional folders of presets (BIAB and some that I downloaded from the IKM web site)
When I installed the new update, I said YES to replace my presets, and it didn't change or remove my BIAB or DOWNLOADED directories
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update: I had several additional folders of presets (BIAB and some that I downloaded from the IKM web site)
When I installed the new update, I said YES to replace my presets, and it didn't change or remove my BIAB or DOWNLOADED directories
Same here.
No problem pressing yes.
Note that I just DLed the update and installed it. Has this problem been corrected? Don't know.
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