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What a Mug, don't they have mirrors where he lives?
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Yeah, good music and pretty. Geez. Willie Nelson was on tee vee the other day. I think he got hit by a convoy of big rigs, hauled by a Monster Truck through the bayou and then dipped in 4 days of the Baja race through the desert before they put him under a million watt sunlamp for a decade. Quite the result.
On the other hand I prefer the female acts to look hot, you know, somewhere under around 150/50. The former number is an ideal weight if she's 5' 11" and the second is the age I like. Except at the age they tend to get the trolls a lot. (As they say in England).
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Much better title than PC Magazine, which had the misleading title Neil Young Wants Digital Music to Die. 
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
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I was fascinated when I read Steve Jobs listened to his personal music on a record player. Then again, his mind was in the category of genius, so I'm not THAT surprised. Someone might be able to emulate the old analog sound in the digital format someday, who knows?
Digital lacks in a few places and makes up for it in others. We "keep on keep'n on" to get there.
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I would have thought this topic to have much more attention that this. Then again, I started it, and that counts for a minus on this forum.
That of course is not much of a huge negative for me. The skin got thick a long time ago.
At the end of the day, we are all making music.
If there is high definition music on the horizon I would think some of the tech guys here would jump in. After all I quoted the NY times, not the Toronto weekly hand out liberal hippy magazine. (there use to be one LOL).
Ah well. Time to argue coda's and their implementation again I guess. Or accidentals and their relevance to the key sig. the bar limit and other time sigs. Have at it or not.
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I can only speak for myself, but it's hard for me to have an opinion on "hi-def music" since I haven't heard an example of it, unless of course it's simply uncompressed music.
I will say that in general, I'm not a fan of MP3's.
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I tend to agree with Ol' Neil here.
I've felt the quality of recorded music has been going south. I think it is a combination of two things: digital media compression algorithms and decreased dynamic range due to normalization / loudness.
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Industry-standard MP3 files have only about 5% of all the sounds that were contained in the original recording, which is called a "master."
That's really pathetic to me when I think about it.
Go Neil.
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My wife recently got XM radio for her car. We started out listening to the more current music, but eventually gravitated to the channels that ran the '70s songs.
I've noticed that her radio sounds consistently worse than music played on my car's CD player. The middle range seems to be very weak, and there's no detail to the sound.
What's interesting is that she's got a "boost" button that hypes the bass and high end. For more contemporary sounds, it works well. But for older music, it makes the middle register recede even more.
So it seems that the psychoacoustic model that XM Radio uses is based on assumptions of more contemporary music, not the more "classic" music.
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
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Older recordings were mastered to be played on different equipment 'in the day'. A few 'tricks' were used to get the sound to come back out of a needle.. As technology moves along recordings get geared more toward current playback devices. Many of us older guys grew up listening to AM radio. Not the best fidelity either. Then FM stereo came along as common and we got used to that.. Current compression schemes aren't any worse than the AM we grew up listening to. Where I work now has an office with vinyl turntable, multiple tube amps and preamps and 7' electrostatic speakers. I guess it is a very expensive system. I've yet to hear it, but am very interested in seeing the current state of the art in vinyl playback. Speakers look something like this - http://www.allegrosound.com/Soundlab_A-1.html
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I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!
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Yeah, good music and pretty. Geez. Willie Nelson was on tee vee the other day. I think he got hit by a convoy of big rigs, hauled by a Monster Truck through the bayou and then dipped in 4 days of the Baja race through the desert before they put him under a million watt sunlamp for a decade. Quite the result.
On the other hand I prefer the female acts to look hot, you know, somewhere under around 150/50. The former number is an ideal weight if she's 5' 11" and the second is the age I like. Except at the age they tend to get the trolls a lot. (As they say in England).
Willie was asked about the lines in his face and replied: "I've enjoyed putting each one of them on there!" Willie is, and always will be his own man. Like showing up for an Oprah interview in a bathrobe and fuzzy slippers. That was my kinda guy! The media definitely does not control Willie.
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Wow - that's some set of speakers there. I love the description (emphasis added): Quote:
Note: A-1's are nortoriously-difficult to drive, requiring massive voltage-swing and rock-solid stability into nearly a dead short above 20kHz; few amplifiers at any price are up to the task.
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Frequency response: 28 Hz to ultrasonics.
I've got an audiophile co-worker who's wife has finally gotten his habit under control. He's told me stories of going to conventions and hearing the top end speakers (with an equally top-end pricetag), and how they almost capture the "live" sound. Apparently it's the little stuff that gives it away, like the detail of the hi-hats.
The "problem" with developing your ears is that you start hearing defects. It's especially irritating once your ears start locking onto something pervasive, like the artifacts of MP3 compression, or the glassy sound of pitch correction. All of a sudden these problems that you never heard before jump out front and center, and it's hard to enjoy the music after that.
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rharv, David beat me to it because I was going to say Quote:
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I get music in my heart or perhaps my soul. I don't care about your hats or your subs. I loved the music in the 60's on my crystal set, with the tiny earphone. I loved my parents radios, sat on the counter, Perry Como crooning. I loved my first record player with the wee speaker, my transistor that hung from the handle bars. I loved going to concerts, the music blew you away, but back to the 3 inch speakers on the TV and the Beatles on Ed Sullivan.
Keep yer high tech whatever. Well performed songs, with meanings, and implied music once you lock on to how it would sound, and hum a bass note to fill it out. Sing the words while you work.
I like the bmw sound system in my car, and the Sony theatre system by my chair. My bose radio in the bedroom, and the Bose amp downstairs.
Onwards and upwards. Keep going.
I hope you never get serious tinnitus. You won't lament your hissing or the crackle.
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