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Hi guys~ Just found out about BiaB and wow... I'm truly amazed at what it can do! Been using iRealB for the iPhone and that was great but this is like another level. I'm very excited to purchase the product! I know things get updated and should not care about future updates but it sounds to me like BiaB will be updated soon for the Mac and I would hate to purchase it now and have to pay the upgrade if it comes out soon  What are your thoughts? I have both PC and Mac. Should I just purchase the PC 2012 or wait for the Mac 2012? Ahhh I hate having two systems.. haha Cheers~
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Hi Koala, You could buy the PC version, and run it on your PC. You can also run it on a Mac under Bootcamp if you have Windows installed on the Mac. BB for Windows runs flawlessly on a Mac under Bootcamp.
Failing that, you could wait for the Mac version 2012.
Have Fun! Peter Gannon PG Music Inc.
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Hey Peter, Thanks for letting me know. I don't have bootcamp but do run Parallels. How is the performance in Parallels? If I'm bootcamping or parallels, would the latency still be lower than if I were to use the native Mac edition? Cheers 
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I haven't tested parallels. I program the Windows version of BB on a Mac with Bootcamp, so that's how I know that it works  Latency on the Mac version is great (low) Latency on the Windows versn is not good with the default MME driver, but if you use ASIO (e.g. Asio4all.com ) then it is great.
Have Fun! Peter Gannon PG Music Inc.
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Awesome. All in all I'm assuming Windows version is the same as the Mac in features? Sorry for all these nuisance questions. I just want to spend my money for the right platform.  Cheers!
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The Windows version has more features than the Mac version. We're working to close that gap.
Have Fun! Peter Gannon PG Music Inc.
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Ah, thank you for the prompt response.
I'm assuming you are saying even when both version numbers are the same Windows (currently) has/had more features than the Mac.
I'm leaning towards bootcamping, now. Hahaha
Thanks
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Yes, assuming that you have room on your hard drive, getting Windows running on a Mac is as easy as: 1. Buying a copy of Windows 7/64($199 from Best Buy http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Windows+7+Ho...;lp=7&cp=1)2. Run Bootcamp on your Mac, you will divide your hard drive between Mac and Windows, and install Windows 7/64. You're done, and then you can run the Windows or Mac version of Band-in-a-Box. For someone who already has the Windows version of Band-in-a-Box, this option might actually be cheaper, since you don't have to buy Band-in-a-Box again.
Have Fun! Peter Gannon PG Music Inc.
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Peter, I have been considering this set up for a while using BIAB windows on bootcamp on mac. My question is that, Is the latency of BIAB win version on bootcamp (Mac) similar to BIAB Mac version on IMac? I asked that question because I am very satisfied with the latency on my BIAB Mac version on IMac but of course I am missing the full version of BIAB on windows, hence considering using BIAB win on bootcamp on mac. Thanks. 
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Hi Avid,
Good question. Mac latency in general is much better than Windows, using the default driver type that Windows uses, which is MME drivers. Most pro audio users on Windows would use ASIO drivers instead of MME. In this case (e.g. asio4all.com ) the latency on Windows is great, and as good as the Mac. There can be hassles with ASIO drivers, such as only being able to use one program at a time with ASIO. Also, latency only matters with Band-in-a-Box when you are recording, and want to hear the MIDI or audio as you are recording.
Have Fun! Peter Gannon PG Music Inc.
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Thanks for bringing that up Avid, cuz latency was something I was concerned about. But using asio4all should do the job.
While reading this, I came up with another question. If I were to buy both versions, say I buy the megapak for windows and just purchase the basic pack ($129) for the Mac, can the media files be used interchangeably from the Windows pack to the Mac or are the media files themselves have different extensions? So in short, if I have the MegaPak for one of the platforms is it necessary for me to purchase the MegaPak for the different OS?
Cheers!
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The MIDI styles transfer from Windows to Mac, but the RealTracks don't (we use wma files on Windows, and m4a files on Mac)
Have Fun! Peter Gannon PG Music Inc.
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The Windows version has more features than the Mac version. We're working to close that gap.
YAY !!!
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Peter
Will the Mac version 2012 have the Loops support feature that the windows version have (i.e. that you can import your own loops?).
Paul
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Oh and meant to ask - do we have even a rough timescale on when 2012 will be here? (am hanging out for the 60s soul real tracks!!!)
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subscribing to thread . Thanks ! kj
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PG Music does not make any promises or pre-announcements, but extrapolating from past experience, this should have come out in the second half of March, with the .5 coming out in September. So unless there is a major slippage, this should be out any day now.
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I have tested Parallels -- running BIAB Windows 2012 on an IMAC with 6 GB RAM in the latest version of Parallels. I also own its main competitor, the latest version of Fusion, and for BIAB, Fusion is the only one that works for me. The main problem is, I'm getting some quiet-but-audible "clicks and pops" playing back BIAB in Parallels, which I haven't experienced in Fusion (and for testing purposes, I imported the same Windows machine into both). This has also been a problem for me in some (but not all) previous versions of Parallels. I actually slightly prefer the Parallels interface, and if BIAB wasn't my main reason for running Windows on a Mac, I'd choose Parallels. But BIAB ran really smoothly for me in Fusion, and I'm running the Audiophile version. I also found Parallels' tech support less than helpful -- though I haven't needed VM's tech support, and thus, can't compare. Of course, your situation might be different, and it may be that BIAB and Parallels will run fine for you. It's obviously working for some folks.
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I have tested Parallels -- running BIAB Windows 2012 on an IMAC with 6 GB RAM in the latest version of Parallels. I also own its main competitor, the latest version of Fusion, and for BIAB, Fusion is the only one that works for me. The main problem is, I'm getting some quiet-but-audible "clicks and pops" playing back BIAB in Parallels, which I haven't experienced in Fusion (and for testing purposes, I imported the same Windows machine into both). This has also been a problem for me in some (but not all) previous versions of Parallels. I actually slightly prefer the Parallels interface, and if BIAB wasn't my main reason for running Windows on a Mac, I'd choose Parallels. But BIAB ran really smoothly for me in Fusion, and I'm running the Audiophile version. I also found Parallels' tech support less than helpful -- though I haven't needed VM's tech support, and thus, can't compare. Of course, your situation might be different, and it may be that BIAB and Parallels will run fine for you. It's obviously working for some folks.
I used to run the Windows version of Band in a Box before they had a Mac OS X version. I'd never do that again. It worked, but sorta. And with the Mac version pretty much having all the essential features of the Windows version (like the real tracks). The only thing I can think of that was in the Windows version (like the 2005 or 2006 version) was an ear training thing. And some sort of game for pitch stuff.
I'd either wait for 2012 band in a box, or perhaps email PG Music to ask if you purchased now, would you get an upgrade to 2012 for free within 30 days if they release a 2012 version. I think they would do that. They seem that sort of company.
There is so much in the 2011.5 that you'd be happy with that.....I am. Freaking awesome stuff.
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as long as I remember,you Do work to close that gap,but somehow it doesn't work,does it?
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In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
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We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
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Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
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