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Yet another problem with 2012 - my last one has never been solved so I can now only use it with MME.
Now my MIDI playback has suddenly stopped. I can hear the MIDI instrument directly, it records onto the track but in playback, whilst I can see the MIDI notes and the meters activate there is no sound. I had CoyoteWT checked as my default synth and have found that if I uncheck it and choose my Creative Soundblaster as the output driver it plays back, however MIDI to wav render does not work in either that mode or with re-route to default synth re-checked.
I've tried the things suggested in the FAQ page, reset factory settings etc., with no success.
Any ideas please?
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Irrespective of the other settings, select the track and then click on the DXi button on the toolbar. In the dialogue box, make sure Coyote WT is selected for that track and that there is an instrument listed for the midi channel the track is using. Then right click on that instrument and select LIMIT POLYPHONY to make sure you have enough notes available.
If this is all as it should be, get back to us and we'll think what else it might be.
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Many thanks for your reply. Yes, all that seems to be OK but still no sound.
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Next thing is to try re-registering the Coyote WT.
Once again, click the DXi button on the toolbar and select OPTIONS-REGISTER A NEW DX PLUGIN. Coyote is usually placed in the PROGRAM FILES folder on the C drive. You may need to change the file type to dll in order to see the plugin.
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Thanks. Tried that - still no good I'm afraid
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Godfrey - have you checked out the Sound and Audio Device Properties - Audio Tab - under Control Panel - just to make sure they're set correctly - then reboot the machine if you've made corrections. Cheers - Ian 
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Hi Ian - thanks for your reply. I've checked and all seems to be OK under Audio Tab. The MIDI playback selected in there is my soundcard - CoyoteWT does not appear as an option. I think this is how it has always been set up.
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In MIDI Driver window
Slect MS Wavetable in the top box, put a check in the "Reroue all MIDI to deafult synth" box, then select the Coyote WT as the default MIDI synth.
If this does not work, maybe your operating system does not contain the wavetable itself (supplied by windows)
This can often be solved by updating Windows Media Player. This is usually no fun.
To test, select the MS Wavetable synth and deselect the "Reroue all MIDI to deafult synth" box. Then you should hear the standard windows synth. If this works, and Coyote WT doesn't, I'd suggest re-installing Coyote WT.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
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Thank you rharv.
Followed your suggestions - the last thing applies, nothing when Coyoye is checked but sounds from MS wavetable (or my soundcard synth if selected) when Coyote unchecked.
Therefore need to try your suggestion of re-installing Coyote WT but can you tell me where to re-install it from please?
Cheers
Godfrey
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Run the install disk, and look at each window.
At one point you can uncheck everything but the CoyoteWT install and just install that.
At least it does on the copy I have hooked to this machine.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
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Thanks again rharv
Did that and again, no improvement. Then tried un-installing and re-installing PT as a whole, again no change. ??
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Godfrey.
When you uninstalled PT, did you separately uninstall Coyote? Also, when you uninstall PT, some folders are left on the system, so it's a good idea to delete these manually. The PT folder is usually left on the C drive and Coyote is left in PROGRAM FILES.
As a last resort, I suggest a complete cleaning of all traces of PT, plus the PG plugins and Coyote. If a new install still doesn't work, something has changed within the computer.
If you've already done this as I described, just ignore me!
ROG.
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As a thought - can you ask PGMusic for a FULL copy of PT 2012, not the upgrade version. Then transfer all working folders from your current file location and store elsewhere - remove all traces of PowerTracks and install PowerTracks as new. All my development files are kept separately on an external drive with a further back up elsewhere.
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LynB.
Actually. Lynn, I think the upgrade disc is exactly the same as the full version. Certainly you can do a first install from it! Best keep it quiet though. (Oops, too late.)
Seriously, I think the price difference just reflects the lack of a printed manual.
ROG.
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Well - thank you - some progress but not quite the complete fix yet.
I purchased the 2012 update via download but it does seem to be the full version.
Didn't realise that so much was left on the system after uninstalling so did exactly as you suggested and went through deleting everything and re-installed from the downloaded file.
Amazingly, the big problem I had with ASIO seems to have been cured (although I hesitate to celebrate too soon) but the problem with CoyoteWT is still there.
It just stopped playing back a few days ago whilst I was using the program.
Just to reiterate, I can get a sound direct from the MIDI instrument and it records. In playback I can see the MIDI notes in the track and the track VU activate but there is no sound when the re-route to default synth box is checked.
I'm not aware that I did anything different. Could it possibly be due to a windows update or something? Would it be worth trying a system restore to a week or so ago? Any further suggestions gratefully received.
Thanks again for the help so far.
Godfrey
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Do you have sound if you select the Microsoft GS Wavetable as your MIDI output driver? (not using any DXi synth).
Andrew
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OK, latest discovery - seems as though you (rharv, ROG and LynB) have succeeded in helping me to fix this for which I am very grateful.
What I've now discovered is that whilst Coyote is still not working with existing tracks (only two that matter so no major problem), all seems to be well and working for new tracks.
I did a test project of two MIDI tracks using Coyote as default synth. They recorded and played back as they should and they also rendered to .wav files OK.
I hope I'm not getting unduly excited too soon, but suddenly, thanks to you, what with the ASIO problem also seemingly solved, I seem to be back in business with PT.
It appears that if I were not so technically ignorant and known that you need to still delete stuff after uninstalling, all these weeks of anquish could have been avoided.
Thank you so much - just hope it really is all OK and I don't have to appeal for your help again.
Godfrey
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Check the port selection for those two tracks by right-clicking under the track name
Something is making them go somewhere else most likely..
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
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